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Old 06-17-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

There is entirely to many grizzlies here in montana. Theya were actually talking about delisting them. But i am unsure of what ever happened with that.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

I've not hunted Montana but Northwest Wyoming is infested with grizzly bears. The guides joke about having a Sierra Club member hike through the Thorofare with a T-bone teak hung around their neck and then decide if there were too many grizzlies or not.

I defintely understand your need for bear defense, if your area is as bad as Wyoming it makes
Afognak Island look like Disney Land. I still think two shots is not enough, Mossberg or Remington pump guns are pretty cheap insurance.
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

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I've not hunted Montana but Northwest Wyoming is infested with grizzly bears. The guides joke about having a Sierra Club member hike through the Thorofare with a T-bone teak hung around their neck and then decide if there were too many grizzlies or not.

I defintely understand your need for bear defense, if your area is as bad as Wyoming it makes
Afognak Island look like Disney Land. I still think two shots is not enough, Mossberg or Remington pump guns are pretty cheap insurance.
a .450 with a 350 grain solid nosed bullet will have just under 2800 ft. lb. of energy at 50 yards, and the 400 grain will have about 3000 ft.lb. of energy (not max loads). Even the factory loads will be in that same area. At fifty feet I know what I'd want! Interesting is that the .444 with a 300 grain bullet @ 2200fps will have right at 2700ft. lb. of energy.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:15 PM
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

Im getting almost 1900 fps out of my 500 mag with an 8 3/8" barrel shooting a 350gr bullet loaded with 41.5grs of lil' gun. Pretty warm so if anyone finds this data work up to it PLEASE!!

Im getting right around 2776 ft.lb. energy with it at the muzzle.

The load i have worked up is comparable to packing a "hot" loaded 45-70 gov. Inside your coat.

I am very comfortable with this hand canon. Ive put well over a 100 rounds through it and wouldn't even think twice about holding my ground with it!
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

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If you really are going into grizzly country, I recommend saving the double barrel and purchase a pump with an 18" tube. Two rounds is not enough lead down range for me. I spent several years working on Kodiak Island and elk hunting on Afognak and Raspberry Islands. I never had to use the shotgun on a bear, but I know if I did I would not have been counting on a making combat reload after two shots. I have faced one of these animals at close range more than once
each time the bear thought of some place better to be. The worst grizzlys that I've seen are the ones just outside of Yellowstone Park in Wyoming. These bears are brave enough that it is almost unsafe to elk hunt in that country.

Good Luck !!

I agree completely. If you have a grizzly that has decided to eat you, you need to keep throwing lead until he won't eat again. I would never choose the double-barrel when you can pick up a used Model 500 pump for $200-$250.
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

A double is about 4" plus or minus shorter than a pump or semi auto with the same length barrel I would not like one as short as 20" for that mater. A 24" barreled double would equal a 20" pump or semi auto approximately and is the way that I would go if it were me YMMV
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Re: barrel length for slug gun.. grizzly defense!

AGREED!!!! As i said i have a mossberg 18" pump 12ga and a mossberg 20" pump 12ga both are pistol grip.
These are always with us. I bring these for everyone! I keep one on my wheeler and the other one goes to anyone who isnt packing. Although almost everyone has one of there own. I am also alway carrying my 500 mag.

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And for week long trips i pack the massberg 930. This is for causing extreme hell and chaos on something!!

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GO TEAM 12 GAUGE!!! HAHA
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