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Old 01-29-2012, 01:07 PM
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Re: B.c. Crazy!

I think the concerns could be better reviewed in the 'ELK HUNTING' section of this forum, as
'External -vs- Terminal ballistics'
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This, since it seems to apply specifically to elk hunting.
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:24 PM
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Agreed, at 200 ~300 yards BC makes little if any difference. But like all error factors in long range the farther you go the more it matters.

But with the very caliber and the black bear you used as a referance my last bear was fine with me using a high BC bullet at 378 yards.

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My 2011 Black Bear and my 300 WM

I guess I am not wrapping my head around what you are trying to present. Maybe that is due to the differences we have had in the field.

Sorry if my posts were not on task.

Jeff
Jeff, I agree with pretty much everything that has been said! My intent was to get newbies to consider ALL the factors that some of us old timers have learned the hard way and not get so enthralled with b.c. alone that they go out and buy titanium bullets to get more b.c. I personally go for the highest b.c. I can get providing it is suitable for the job. Opinions may differ somewhat as to which bullet that is as this forum has demonstrated over and ooooover! That's ok! .......Rich
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:30 PM
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Re: B.c. Crazy!

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I think the concerns could be better reviewed in the 'ELK HUNTING' section of this forum, as
'External -vs- Terminal ballistics'
Elk Hunting - LongRangeHunting Online Magazine

This, since it seems to apply specifically to elk hunting.
Actually, I wasn't just thinking of elk hunting, even though I used that as an example. Thanks for mentioning so I could clarify that!........Rich
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: B.c. Crazy!

I "think" I get the position that B.C. need not be a deal breaker. I'm more of a moderate range (600 yards) person, and I think this who this is directed toward. An example might be running the numbers of the highest/heaviest BC bullet in a particular caliber against some of lighter faster bullets, may favor lighter faster at a particular range. Or comparable bullets of different brands, but the lower BC just outshoots the slightly higher. I agree.
Without critizing the terminal performance of any high B.C. bullet, I think the point is just because your rifle won't shoot the highest BC bullet out there doesn't mean your done. And if you're truly looking at a 1000 yards or more, and had a rifle made to shoot the highest BC bullet out there and it won't, maybe there is one close that will work well enough, as I'm not in this class of shooter I'll leave that side of the discussion to those that are.
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i "think" i get the position that b.c. Need not be a deal breaker. I'm more of a moderate range (600 yards) person, and i think this who this is directed toward. An example might be running the numbers of the highest/heaviest bc bullet in a particular caliber against some of lighter faster bullets, may favor lighter faster at a particular range. Or comparable bullets of different brands, but the lower bc just outshoots the slightly higher. I agree.
Without critizing the terminal performance of any high b.c. Bullet, i think the point is just because your rifle won't shoot the highest bc bullet out there doesn't mean your done. And if you're truly looking at a 1000 yards or more, and had a rifle made to shoot the highest bc bullet out there and it won't, maybe there is one close that will work well enough, as i'm not in this class of shooter i'll leave that side of the discussion to those that are.
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Re: B.c. Crazy!

Here is what I see locally. More people are shooting distance, more tech, and tv type promotion. I see smaller projectiles gettting pushed farther, and the smaller, in general, dont carry the BC'S OF maybe a better suited caliber. I have also seen where a " LR rifle" is handed to someone with little experiance at LR, and takes shots not practiced for. This has been shown on tv also. The proven LR rifle is a better choice though, than a unknown
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:28 PM
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I think your point is good some can get carried away with bc as I did with speed in my younger years.
I spent a lot of cash up front for the rig then more for the load development in different powders ect, to determine that sweet spot. Which good grouper helped me with. After that sweet spot had been reached with the highest bc bullet that grouped with a satisfactory standard diviation, that is when I purchased enough powder from the same lot & bullets from the same lot to last the life of the barrel, dont wan,t to be changing bullets now.
The last thing I want to worry about is do I want a Fail safe or my wildcat 169.5 or weather the shot will be 300 yards or 1200 yards. If I am looking at a boone & crocket Mulie @ 1200 and I can't close the gap I would be kicking myself from now until Sunday if I had to pass because I had one of those premium bonded bullets that I know wouldn't expand at that distance. But that 300 yard shot I know both bullets will kill.
On the other hand know your limitations. and your load, shoot & prepare yourself for that situation if the oppertunity of a lifetime present's itself at that distance.
And if you feel comfortable with the shot you will probably make it.
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