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Old 08-24-2011, 06:20 PM
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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

Broz,
Thanks for the long post in answer to my question. It sounds like you are very happy with them.

From my point of view I get excellent accuracy with the SMK's but am a bit disappointed with the killing performance at extreme range.

What I am after is a bullet that is at least as accurate as the SMK. Shoots flatter than the SMK, has less wind drift and kills better that the SMK at long range.

Would you say that the Berger ticks all four boxes?

Sorry to put you on the spot Broz, but you have so much experience with these bullets while we are still trying to get our hands on them down here in Aus.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:56 PM
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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

Well,, NZ Long Ranger has been posting some impressive pics of game he has taken at 1000 plus. I have taken game past 1100 yds with 300 SMK's and have no complaints. I have not done any expansion testing of the Gen 2's yet but, I did with the Gen 1's. If you are not pushing them any faster than 2800 and in a 10 twist I feel the Gen 1's would be what you are looking for. I just can't say about the Gen 2's yet. But my best guess at this point is they will expand similar to a 300 SMK. Again, that is just a guess.

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Old 09-30-2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

Shot two groups to confirm and keep extending my drops tonight. First group was just under 1 moa the second group went 10" which is about .6 moa the distance was 1709 yards.

I now have "spot on" drops to 1 mile and to me that is a couple 3 shot groups centered on point of aim.

I continue to be amazed by these bullets in my .338 LM

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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

Just picked up a box of the 300 Berger Gen 2's and will be trying them this weekend in my 338 LM if I get the chance. I am very excited with the results posted here by Boz.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:09 AM
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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

that is nuts. I am currently shooting the Gen 1's in me edge and they shoot really good some days and not very good others. I curious as to why you say 1-10 twist for the gen 1's. I am shooting them at about 2850 in a 1-9 and wondering now if nose slump is my issue. shot at 1100 yards about a week ago and had about a 6 MOA group. Really impressive i know, with the same loads it will print 1/4 moa at 100 then on some days if i test groups at 200 yards it will be either 1/2 moa to 2 moa groups. i didnt think i would have slump issues though since its under 2900.
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Re: Amazed with the Gen 2 Bergers

One of the things I have noticed is the help a good flying bullet will give you with your drops. If you have a bullet that will still group under 1 moa at a mile with more than one group it becomes easier to find group centers and confirm the actual drops.

All my drops are confirmed now to 1 mile by means of 1/2 moa groups shot to 1550 and then groups under 1 moa on out. These were on actual target and drops were measured with a tape to center group. At least 2 groups were used and in some of the longer shots 3 groups were used.

I have found it is taking me 3 stepped BC and min velocity limits to get them to jive and be spot on. Every drop now comes out with in .1 moa of perfect.

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that is nuts. I am currently shooting the Gen 1's in me edge and they shoot really good some days and not very good others. I curious as to why you say 1-10 twist for the gen 1's. I am shooting them at about 2850 in a 1-9 and wondering now if nose slump is my issue. shot at 1100 yards about a week ago and had about a 6 MOA group. Really impressive i know, with the same loads it will print 1/4 moa at 100 then on some days if i test groups at 200 yards it will be either 1/2 moa to 2 moa groups. i didnt think i would have slump issues though since its under 2900.
Actually I think you are right on the edge. No pun intended. I believe the tighter twists made the "slump" more pronounced and if my memory is correct it started at 2860 in a 9 twist.

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