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Old 03-25-2008, 09:52 PM
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try this thread (long, but has the information that you are looking for):

375 Allen Mag load data ready, with pics...



Allen Mags (from left to right in the picture - info from thread by Kirby Allen)

224 Allen Magnum
270 WSM case .............. 107 gr ULD RBBT........3400fps

257 Allen Xpress
300 Dakota case ............ 142-156gr ULD RBBT..3300-3100fps

6.5mm Allen Xpress
300 Dakota case ............ 142-165gr ULD RBBT..3350-3100fps

270 Allen Xpress
300 Dakota case ............ 169.5gr ULD RBBT......3200fps

257 Allen Magnum
338 RUM case................ 156gr ULD RBBT........3300fps

6.5mm Allen Magnum
338 RUM case................ 165gr ULD RBBT .......3300fps

270 Allen Magnum
7mm Rum case................ 169.5gr ULD RBBT....3400fps

277 Allen Magnum
338 Lapua case................ 195gr ULD RBBT.......3200fps

7mm Allen Magnum
338 Lapua case................ 200gr ULD RBBT......3250fps

338 Allen Magnum
408 Chey Tac case ........... 300gr ULD or SMK ...3400-3500fps

JeffVN
Thanks JeffVN,
Those pics are awesome!
The only piece of info I couldn't find,I read ALL the threads you supplied,was what head size is this 408 chey tac case?
Does it fit in anything other than 'custom' actions?
Any more info would be GREATLY appreciated.I might build ONE or MORE!
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:20 PM
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[QUOTE=ss7mm;197999]harfman99:

I'll warn you now, up front, be careful what you read and who you talk to about the Allen Magnums.;) You will hear what they are, how good they work and what a quality guy Kirby is, and.......it'll cost you dearly because you'll end up wanting one.QUOTE]

Or two or three or four......
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:30 AM
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Thanks for all the great info everone. They are pretty "wow" to say the least! I am in the middle of a project right now that will get me close to the 7. This info will let me see where I am standing against some of the best out there. Also how deep in the pocket book would a person have to dig to have Kirby build one in a remington action?
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:54 AM
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Not too expensive

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Also how deep in the pocket book would a person have to dig to have Kirby build one in a remington action?
If you consider their accuracy and performance, I think they are a bargain compared to other custom guns. I'm having one built with a new stiller action and it's still less than half of a Lazzeroni. In fact, it's less than than what Cabalas is selling one of Kirby's USED guns for. If I where you, I'd order one. One of these days, Kirby will have to give in to the law of supply and demand and raise his prices.

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Old 03-27-2008, 09:46 AM
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If you consider their accuracy and performance, I think they are a bargain compared to other custom guns. I'm having one built with a new stiller action and it's still less than half of a Lazzeroni. In fact, it's less than than what Cabalas is selling one of HIS used guns for. If I where you, I'd order one. One of these days, Kirby will have to give in to the law of supply and demand and raise his prices.
And when that happens, you can obtain a fired case and have a reamer and gages made from it. Then, have your gunsmith of choosing do the work for you.

Nothing magical about chambering, threading and crowning a barrel. Additionally, stock work is easy to have done as well. Even by folks who have been doing it much longer than Kirby.

So, don't get locked into or fall in love with one gunsmith. Keep them guessing.

James
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:58 AM
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And when that happens, you can obtain a fired case and have a reamer and gages made from it. Then, have your gunsmith of choosing do the work for you.
That is what is known as intellectual theft. While it is not unlawful, it is dishonest.

Kirby goes to a lot of trouble and expense to test his cartridges and the rifles that will shoot them. There is a lot of hidden costs that most people don't see like testing different barrels and different brass but people like me and Dick have a reasonable understanding of it. When you steal his ideas and have someone else build a rifle you have failed to pay for Kirby's hidden costs and have cheated him.

The chief reason I don't have Kirby build more of my rifles is I am just really paranoid about shipping my guns around. If a person does good work for you then you should show appreciation by customer loyalty.

Finally, if there lots of gunsmiths who can build great long range rifles around why don't you see their names mentioned when hunting season rolls around and pictures are posted and proof is laid out for all to see.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:09 PM
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When you steal his ideas and have someone else build a rifle you have failed to pay for Kirby's hidden costs and have cheated him.
X2, agreed BB.
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