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Old 07-03-2013, 10:15 AM
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

here's where I'd start, and it'll cost you less than five dollars to get all the stuff in hand.

* put a strip of masking tape on the barrel, and mark a good stiff cleaning rod (like a Proshot) in one inch increments. Then run a very tight patch thru the barrel. Mark every place you find a tight spot, and the same with very loose spots (you may want to actually do this three or four times). If the barrel is looser(as in bigger bore) at the muzzle you will never shoot it well. Very tight places often deform the bullet in travel, but a loose muzzle will literally throw bullets like a shotgun.

* Next thing I'd do is to check a half dozen or so of once fired cases that are unsized. Look for case run out and out of square shoulders and necks first. Next check the base for rim deformation. This can also be caused by the extractor

* lastly; pull the barreled action from the stock and have a good look at the bedding under a strong light

One poster suggested sending it back to Remington. That's a good start. Krieger doesn't do chamber jobs unless they just started. But Pacnor does. Pacnor even does a barrel nut conversion for Remingtons!
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:52 AM
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

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Krieger doesn't do chamber jobs unless they just started. But Pacnor does. Pacnor even does a barrel nut conversion for Remingtons!
gary[/QUOTE]

Krieger does chamber jobs and a whole lot more and has done so for quite some time. I had a Ruger re-barreled by Krieger several years back. Because of volume, they don't do Rugers anymore. However, Remington 700's are still on the list of actions accepted for fitting. Krieger would certainly be an option.

However, the backlog at Krieger is pretty long. There are other good barrel makers out there. Some of them may be able to get a high quality barrel to you in a much shorter time frame. Don't be afraid to shop around.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:59 AM
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

thanks, to all. longrangehunting is such a cool place!

you have given me a great starting point

1)use the tape and patch trick for i.d.
2) check spent cases 1-2 just for my own knowledge, as i couldn't fix anyway

3)i'm going to order some nosler/barne's/etc higher quality ammo
4)send it back to remington, regardless of the outcomes of steps 1-3.

thanks, everyone! have something to work on this long weekend.

a great 4th of July to all
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

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Number 1 would be my first step especially since you have other rifles. Number two is the fail safe way . no experience with number 3.
I agree with this!

You could always go with Door #1.....But behind door #2 lies a much more fullfilling endeavor.

I would go with #2 and have smith install an aftermarket high-qualitybarrel, bed action, float tht barrel, and accurize everything. You will enjoy your rifle much more, and get ALOT more accuracy and alot more years of accurate usage, as well. In other words, the money will be well spent.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:18 AM
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Krieger does chamber jobs and a whole lot more and has done so for quite some time. I had a Ruger re-barreled by Krieger several years back. Because of volume, they don't do Rugers anymore. However, Remington 700's are still on the list of actions accepted for fitting. Krieger would certainly be an option.

However, the backlog at Krieger is pretty long. There are other good barrel makers out there. Some of them may be able to get a high quality barrel to you in a much shorter time frame. Don't be afraid to shop around.
that's news to me! I knew they were thinking about doing Savage prefits awhile back, but heard no more about it, so I figured they just opted out of the idea. Pacnor has been doing chamber jobs for years. They also offer the barrel nut as an option, should one desire it. The average person has little need for the barrel that Krieger sells, and also has the premium to pay for it.

We the OP's issues, I wait to see what the barrel and bedding looks like before going further. Then as a last resort, I would have a chamber cast done to see what it looks like. There may be little wrong with the rifle, and just a few small tweeks to make it a shooter.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:26 AM
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

Have a good gunsmith glass bed the barrel. Last year I loaded for a friends older Rem 700 in 300 Weatherby. He put a HS precision stock on it and my loads were shooting 3 inch groups. He put the original wood stock back on and it shot 1 inch groups. He had my smith bed the barrel with the HS and its shoots 1/2 inch groups with the same load. Cost him about 100 bucks for the bedding job.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:13 AM
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Re: advice for an ill-shooting remington xcr tactical l/r

I bought a new Winchester model 70 extreme weather in 300 win mag based on the recommendation of 2 Scheels associates. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER EXPENSIVE FACTORY RIFLE AGAIN!!! This rifle would only shoot 2 1/4 to 4 inch groups with 6 different factory ammos. I have since found a good gunsmith and had him put on a match grade barrel, bedded the stock, put on a Timney trigger and lap the lugs. I'm working on a hand load to get me between 3/8 and 3/4 inch groups. I think the only way to go is to buy a cheap rifle for the action and have a smith put on a new barrel, trigger and stock. I've heard too many stories of guys getting poor shooting rifles from the factory and the gun companies won't do anything to fix them. Its a really big roll of the dice to get a factory gun that will shoot well. Some will say that Savage or Tikka are accurate right out of the box. I couldn't get a Savage in a 110 FCP HS Precision and didn't want a 6.75 pound Tikka in a 300 win mag.

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