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Old 08-10-2010, 02:49 PM
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Advice On a Custom Rifle.

I am looking to change my hunting setup a little bit as it will not satisfy all of my needs. My current rig is a Browning A-Bolt Medallion in 7mm WSM topped with a 5-25x52 Swarovski. I enjoy this setup very much and it has the capability to reach much further than I care to shoot. I have strecthed this rifle as far as 618yds while harvesting a Boone and Crockett caliber Pronghorn. My main reason for switching this setup is that it really isn't an all around caliber and is a little on the heavy side. I would not shoot anything larger than deer with it at any type of distance beyond two hundred yards. Also I'm a fan of the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw loaded by Federal. This round is not available for the 7mm wsm and although it is still available the 7mm wsm is getting harder to find everywhere I go. I figure that a 300 wsm topped with the scope from my current rifle will satisfy all of my hunting needs except for the largest animals in the world, while not shredding deer and antelope to pieces. Essentially I am looking for a rifle light enough to chase sheep all day ( hopefully in the future) and still have the stones to handle Alaska-Yukon Moose ( also hopefully in the future)

My mother currently shoots a Bansner because factory rifles simply wouldn't fit her. This rifle has served her flawlessly for the last 7 or 8 years inculding trips to New Zealand and long shots a elk and mule deer. Considering this and given their location not very far from my home they seem like a logical choice.

I am "cheap" and meticulous in that I only want to do this once. So I am looking for any advice or feedback from anyone willing to give it out so I make the "right" choice. I want this rifle to last at least my lifetime, which is a good long while since I am only 22 years old.

I do not have the time or resources to make or load my own ammo so I am looking only for something that is factory available.

I thank everyone in advance for any advice you can give me and I welcome any questions you have to help find my need better.

P.S. I don't know how many people are aware of this, but firearms are only covered by insurance up to around $2500. If anyone here is like me they have that wrapped up in just one gun. Just something to think about, feel free to contact me about this as well.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

I think the key element you are asking for is factory ammo. I just bought a new, used, rifle with the same thing in mind except I wanted a good back up rifle in case my custom isn't finished in time for this hunting season either. I looked at available good factory ammo for long range and decided on 300 WinMag. I bought loaded ammo with the 190s from HSM but you can get the 168VLD, 185VLD, or 210VLD Bergers from them also. You can also get good factory ammo in Fed Match loaded with the 190s. HSM does make 300 WSM with 168VLD and 185VLD Bergers. Look around and see what's available in factory ammo before you make your choice. There are other calibers with good choices of factory ammo. Me, I'm still hoping for my custom 7WSM to come in but I'm already set up to load my own for that caliber. Also, if you watch BoTW much you'll see many large animals killed at long range with the 7mm bullet to include large Elk and Brown bear. Just food for thought. Good luck.

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Old 08-11-2010, 01:21 AM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

IMO the 7 WSM will be fine for anything below dangerous game. HSM has the 168 Berger loads for the 7 WSM and 7 Rem Mag. The biggest thing I could tell you is get EXACTLY what you want. Don't try and tell yourself that something will work if it's not what you want. That will save you $ in the olng run.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:19 AM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

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IMO the 7 WSM will be fine for anything below dangerous game. HSM has the 168 Berger loads for the 7 WSM and 7 Rem Mag. The biggest thing I could tell you is get EXACTLY what you want. Don't try and tell yourself that something will work if it's not what you want. That will save you $ in the olng run.
I appreciate your advice but I do not believe that the 7mm wsm will remain a readily available cartridge in the future. In my area I've already seen it drop to the point where all I can find is 140gr ballistic tips. I really do not enjoy shipping ammo due to the cost and the way things are handled by the shipping companies. With this limitation on ammo this rifle simply won't have the punch I feel that it will need on larger game.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:33 AM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

One might take a moment to think about this one. AT 22 years old when many of us asked advise, specifically me, I silently listened as some very knowledgable guru's of the shooting industry imparted their knowledge. I asked the same question of a 70 year old machinist/gunsmith who hand made gun parts for all application of Winchester,colts and Smith & Wessons.

His answer to me was a 300 H& H as it was pleasant to shoot compared to the 300 Weatherby, many manufacturers of quality ammo. Another told me about an estate sale in which a complete reloading outfit was going to be sold. I still use that reloader and for $50. that reloading outfit as saved me many thousands of dollars over the years. Hand Crafting quality ammo at todays prices especially in Alaska save me 3/4 of the price of a box of shellls. Components last or store in my case many decades. I bought the 300H&H and immediately learned that someone rechambered it without marking to 300 Weatherby. After two shots I noticed a problem, took it back to the gun shop where I purchased it and got a 300 Win Mag. I used it for many,many years.

The moral to this story is when you ask questions of the incredible talent pool here you may want to sit back and watch,wait and learn. Many of us are 3 and 4 times your age. Many have shot every caliber in existance and built or designed a few of our own.
I wish someone would have told me to go Savage when I was a young man. Of course Savage wasn't what it is today be any means. However, being able to swap barrels,bolt,boltheads and such would have saved me a lifes fortune. My Savages now are swapped from 204 Ruger to 460 Weatherby and above without special tools and many of the barrels I bought un-used for $50 ranging from 204 Ruger to 300 Rum and I saw a factory 458 Win Mag barrel recently.
A 300 Ruger compact Magnum, 338 Ruger Compact Magnum or a 375 Ruger would all fill the needs to requested and do it nicely. If your Browning was a long action and readily interchanable I would re-chamber it into a 7 RUM and use 180-200 grain bullets.

Good luck in your quest

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Old 08-11-2010, 12:14 PM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

Are we talking a full custom including action stock barrel trigger and so on. Or we talking a rebarrel of you Browning? If you want a 300 WSM you should have one and if you like your current rifle just have it rebarreld to a 300 WSM with the same contour barrel and length you currently have you could flute the barrel to save some weight.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:05 PM
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Re: Advice On a Custom Rifle.

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One might take a moment to think about this one. AT 22 years old when many of us asked advise, specifically me, I silently listened as some very knowledgable guru's of the shooting industry imparted their knowledge. I asked the same question of a 70 year old machinist/gunsmith who hand made gun parts for all application of Winchester,colts and Smith & Wessons.

His answer to me was a 300 H& H as it was pleasant to shoot compared to the 300 Weatherby, many manufacturers of quality ammo. Another told me about an estate sale in which a complete reloading outfit was going to be sold. I still use that reloader and for $50. that reloading outfit as saved me many thousands of dollars over the years. Hand Crafting quality ammo at todays prices especially in Alaska save me 3/4 of the price of a box of shellls. Components last or store in my case many decades. I bought the 300H&H and immediately learned that someone rechambered it without marking to 300 Weatherby. After two shots I noticed a problem, took it back to the gun shop where I purchased it and got a 300 Win Mag. I used it for many,many years.

The moral to this story is when you ask questions of the incredible talent pool here you may want to sit back and watch,wait and learn. Many of us are 3 and 4 times your age. Many have shot every caliber in existance and built or designed a few of our own.
I wish someone would have told me to go Savage when I was a young man. Of course Savage wasn't what it is today be any means. However, being able to swap barrels,bolt,boltheads and such would have saved me a lifes fortune. My Savages now are swapped from 204 Ruger to 460 Weatherby and above without special tools and many of the barrels I bought un-used for $50 ranging from 204 Ruger to 300 Rum and I saw a factory 458 Win Mag barrel recently.
A 300 Ruger compact Magnum, 338 Ruger Compact Magnum or a 375 Ruger would all fill the needs to requested and do it nicely. If your Browning was a long action and readily interchanable I would re-chamber it into a 7 RUM and use 180-200 grain bullets.

Good luck in your quest

Neal
Well of course sir you present a valuable and very important point in that my age is a limiting factor. I certainly am well equipped to gold my own in the firearms department as I had a grandfather who was a certifiable gun nut. I am far and away from being anything near great in the shooting and advice. My point simply was that currently I need to drive more than 40 minutes to find 7mm wsm factory ammo in anything other than 140gr ballistic tips. I appreciate any and all information I can get, that is the whole reason I came to this place as many of these folks have built or at least own very high quality, top notch rifles. I am mostly looking for an experience that someone can tell me about with one of the custom builders. I do not want to piece a rifle together as I have no idea where to begin I am looking a one stop shop for lack of a better term. I thank you personally for your time and the advice that you had to share
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