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Unread 03-29-2009, 10:55 AM
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Anyone ever used or know anyone who has used one of mcmillans actions are they over priced or are they worth the 1450 they are asking?
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    Unread 03-29-2009, 11:33 AM
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    Re: actions

    I have an older one not the one you are talking about and I like it. If I were going to buy another custom action I would take the advice of my smith and get a borden timberline action.

    I think they are over priced but thats JMO

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    Unread 03-29-2009, 03:30 PM
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    Re: actions

    $300 of that price is name only. If you want to spend big bucks on a kickass action, get a BAT.

    That said, in the hands of a smith that truly cares about what his name goes on (which we hope ALL of them do), you can spend about $750 on a Stiller Predator or Viper action and you will see ZERO difference in accuracy of a custom rifle compared to one with a McMillan, Borden, BAT, Surgeon, Phoenix machine, etc.

    A trued action is just that. A "squared" action can't get anymore "square." The complete rifle and your handloading ability with good components make up the other 70% of the puzzle.

    I have rifles with custom actions but most are blueprinted 700s. To date, the trued 700s are the most accurate rifles I have. That said, and to be fair, I've worked with them a little longer on load development.
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    Unread 03-31-2009, 09:27 PM
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    Re: actions

    They certainly look nice to me. I really like the features on their so-called CRF action. If I was contemplating a custom action, I'd seriously consider one.


    Been away a while!!!
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    Unread 03-31-2009, 09:30 PM
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    Re: actions

    If I were buying a custom action, I would buy either the BAT or Viper, which is made by Stiller.
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    Unread 03-31-2009, 09:39 PM
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    Re: actions

    I have a Stiller Predator EXtreme on my 338 Lapua Improved and it is working awesome.

    If money wasn't an issue I'd get a Bat with integral 20moa rail. It has integral recoil lug as well.

    I really like the Stiller but my next build will be a BAT

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    Unread 03-31-2009, 11:54 PM
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    Re: actions

    My 338 Lapua AI build is getting a BAT with a 20moa rail but it wasn't really anymore than the others that I looked at except the Stiller and we probably would have really looked hard at the Stiller but we could never get them to answer the phone or call us back and I like the idea of making local dollars and spending local dollars so BAT it is. You spend more for the rail but you save it on the other end of the build. I have to admit though the Surgeon is a sweet looking piece
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