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Old 01-28-2007, 02:34 AM
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Action to use for custom rifle

I am in the early stages of building a custom rifle, so early in fact that I dont have any parts so am open to suggestions.

Currently use a 7mm08, longest shot to date is 525 yards with 120 barnes tsx.

I have pretty much settled on a Lilja barrell, most likely a 7mm variant.

My big question is regarding the action. It seems that alot of custom built rifles are based on the Remington 700 action, the only other brand action I have heard of being used is Nesika but they are <u>way</u> out of my price range.

What other brands of actions are there that are suitable or would I be better buying a second hand Remington rifle and just using the action from that?

Ultimately I want a rifle that can shoot out to 700-800 yards, maybe further and an all up weight of about 9lb ( I have a Leupold Mk4 4.5-14x50 scope already).

I dont know about stockes yet either, am keen on McMillans but they do seem expensive, what other good options are there?

Cheers in advance, Steve
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:57 AM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

Steve if you use a rem 700 you will want to blueprint it etc. Check out Lawton actions. They are a rem 700 clone already blueprinted and ready to go. There are a lot of custom actions but these are more in the $ range. Good Luck on your project. PS: Lawton makes good barrels too. Lawton Rifles
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:44 AM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

For the money its hard to beat a Rem 700 IF you already have one , if not by the time you get a donor gun or action for say $300 minimum then throw another $150-$300 at it depending on wether you want it fully bilt with sleaved bolt and Sako extractor you not far from the cost of a Lawton thats ready to go and in the end if you need to sell it the resale will be alot better with the custom action.

I have seen several great shooting guns built on other action from old Mauser 89's to Howa's and Older pushfeed winchesters.
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:03 AM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

I agree with maico and JD.If you already had a Rem action,it could be trued up and is a good foundation for a build.Anymore it getting less feasable with the Rem clones that are available though.On average,say you aquire a Rem action for $300-$350,by the time the work is done to match the features of a Rem clone,you could easily be above the cost of the clone price (note I said match the features).Yes you can just have the action trued (square the reciever face,true the threads,lugs and lap them)for less and still have a great shooting gun as my sendero will attest to.
Talk to some of the members on the board about the guns theyve had built on Lawton,Stiller,Borden or Surgeon actions and ask them to give you a comparison to a Rem action.
Early last year one of the forum members (bountyhunter,I believe) posted a thread with the news of jim Borden starting to produce a Rem clone (actually Rem clone is a dis-service to any of these manufacturers actions.I guess Rem foot print would be better) in short and long action with an introductory price of $600.The response to these actions must have been fantastic because they're being offered in eight different versions,plus the choice of right or left bolt.For me,it couldnt have happened at a better time.I was already schemeing a couple builds I wanted to do and with a tax return headed my way I ordered both a short and long action.It turned into quite a wait for the first order of actions to come out as Jim had machining problems with some of the new equipment he got,but the wait was well worth it.I got the short action Alpine last month and the quality of this action is unbelievable for the price I got it for.I once ordered and got a Nesika M action for a build I was going to do but sacrificed it for one of my sons projects he had going on (long story) so that gun never got done.But Steve I can honestly tell you that the smoothness and lockup on this Alpine feels better to me than the Nesika did.
The Timberline (long action) I ordered should be here early this week and is setup for the ultra mag bolt face.I'll try and get some pics posted of them when the other one gets here.
You can go the Rem action route,have a good shooting gun and youll probably have no regrets.Or you can go the custom route and Im quite sure youll have no regrets.It all boils down to what has been posted on the LRH forum many times.When you get your build done and shoot it,will you be asking yourself "what if I would have....?"
Check into the Lawton 7000 series,the Stiller Predator,the Borden Alpine and Timberline and the Surgeon actions and above all dont try to rush a gun build.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

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I am in the early stages of building a custom rifle, so early in fact that I dont have any parts so am open to suggestions.

Currently use a 7mm08, longest shot to date is 525 yards with 120 barnes tsx.

I have pretty much settled on a Lilja barrell, most likely a 7mm variant.

My big question is regarding the action. It seems that alot of custom built rifles are based on the Remington 700 action, the only other brand action I have heard of being used is Nesika but they are <u>way</u> out of my price range.

What other brands of actions are there that are suitable or would I be better buying a second hand Remington rifle and just using the action from that?

Ultimately I want a rifle that can shoot out to 700-800 yards, maybe further and an all up weight of about 9lb ( I have a Leupold Mk4 4.5-14x50 scope already).

I dont know about stockes yet either, am keen on McMillans but they do seem expensive, what other good options are there?

Cheers in advance, Steve

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It all depends if you just plan on a one-barelled rifle or a switch-barrelled rifle. If it is a single barrelled rifle and that is going to be it, true up the Remington and be done with it. However, if you are planning on barrels of different caliber in the future, I would go with nothing less than a BAT and get it with the all the different size bolt faces you think you might need. BAT actions are not remington clones and are larger in diameter to allow you to hang larger barrels on the actions. Additionally, they are very well made and you will be happy with one of them. NOthing wrong with remingtons, but if you are going custom, go custom.

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Old 01-28-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

a lawton action will cost min $750. i found a remington .308 for $270. to have the smith true it up and blue print the action cost $180. total cost $450. with the $300 savings, i bought a Lilja barrel.
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:11 PM
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Re: Action to use for custom rifle

exsanguinate , you action while being trued back where its should be is not close to a Lawton becasue the bolt wasen't sleeved thats gonna cost you at least another $125 , and you diden't mention if you had a Sako extractor added thats gonna be at least another $100 , added all up yes its still a we bit less than a Lawton but if you had to sell it you would never get over $500 unless you found a sucker. Basicaly what I'm saying is that you can throw a thouseand dollars at a Rem action and make it realy nice but its still gonna be a Rem action.

I say this and I just had Nate Dagley put his $400 action package into a Rem 700 short action , why , becasue I already had the action. I'm sure that this rig is gonna shoot as well as if he had built it on a Lawton , Panda or Bat action.
So if you have a Rem action sitting around then by all means build on it but if you have to go out and get a donor then for my hard earned money I'll spend a little more for the custom action
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