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Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

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Unread 12-22-2009, 05:24 AM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

I know what you mean by feeling a rifle and not liking it. A store clerk handed me a Stevens and I couldn't believe how cheap it felt. It turned me off of buying a rifle at that store.

I didn't have much money to spend on a rifle and the Howa was a good buy for me. I wanted a Vanguard for $399 like on the advertisements here, but no one in my area sold them. And if they did they sure weren't $399!

I hope you find something you'll like for decades to come.
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Unread 12-22-2009, 05:35 AM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

BAD TIKKA - 24hourcampfire

Chuck can't find tikkas that shoot under 1"???

he must be an idiot.
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Unread 12-22-2009, 07:26 AM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

I don't own a Tikka but have a SAKO M995 and Savage 111F, both in .300 WM and are shooters. My Savage is not the prettiest but is my go to gun and has never failed me.

Both choice rifles have the potential out of the box accuracy and IMHO, you cannot go wrong for the $$$. Let's face it, this is not going to be your last or only rifle ... the more you contemplate on which one to get the longer you are not afforded to shoot them.

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Unread 12-22-2009, 09:42 AM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

I actually learned a great deal from Chuck Hawks when I was getting started, and for that, I am grateful. I must say that I have since outgrown his mentorship in many ways.

He is a decent resource for beggining hunters with limited resources. He encourages hunters to keep it simple and practice more than just buying 1 box of shells every 3 - 4 deer seasons and only check the point of impact with a couple of rounds before opening day. He advises beginning shooters to be cautious about excessive recoil that will discourage them from getting the practice that they so sorely need. These are good things. In this world, long range = 300 - 400 yrds, and with limited preparation, those are reasonable guidelines.

The part of the shooting world that Mr. Hawks addresses is very simple compared to that of the long range hunter. Therefore, he really isn't very helpful to anyone with serious interest in long range shooting willing to invest lots of time and money into their hobby. It's just apples and oranges.

People need to shoot more and stress less IMHO.

A quick search on various internet forums and boards will clearly prove that almost all T3 owners are happy with their rifle's accuracy.

I owned a T3 Hunter with wood stock in 6.5x55. Accuracy was good - not great by my standards ( 1 moa ), but it was a nice, lightweight rifle for the money.
The most accurate rifle I have ever owned was a Savage (Ugly 270WSM 12 Hvy 26" Barrel: 3/4" at 300 yds 140 gr AB at 3340 fps handloads) - way sub-moa but heavy!

I would recommend a new/modern Savage over the Tikka T3. Simple fact is that either rifle will give you an opportunity to learn, gain experience and improve your skills.

Good Luck and Best Wishes

ps. I know we are talking about relatively inexpensive rifles, but add to that the cost of reloading equipment, range finders, wind meter, ballistics software, optics, and on and on it goes. There is no such thing as cheap long range hunting. So...ENJOY YOUR INVESTMENT!

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Unread 12-22-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

Originally Posted by WindRunner View Post
The most accurate rifle I have ever owned was a Savage (Ugly 270WSM 12 Hvy 26" Barrel: 3/4" at 300 yds 140 gr AB at 3340 fps handloads) - way sub-moa but heavy!
That is the same rifle and cal I shoot and the same bullet I shoot @ 3341fps, kinda cool to see someone doing the exact same thing
I have shot two six shot groups at 1015yrds with it that only had 2 3/8 in virticle, I had 13in of wind drift as I was not comprnsating just shooting to see what it does on paper. I have shot many larger groups also but it basically boils down to my reloading and getting sloppy, not the rifle. 12.5 lbs with everything, can get kinda heavy lugging around but there is a definite pay of at the shot!!
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Unread 12-22-2009, 12:34 PM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

Originally Posted by phatcenter77 View Post
... I finally decided on the .270 Win ...This is going to be almost solely used as a hunting rifle...

What it all boils down to is: which is likely to be more accurate out of the box?

I own the Tikka T3 Lite in 7mm-08, the thing I like about this rifle is I don't need to add anything other than scope to have a rifle more capable than my skills! I am a retread hunter after a multi decade hiatus. I shoot 1.25" groups at 100 yards with the cheapest Winchester silver box. I am absolutely confident this rifle with handloads and more practice can shoot .5"-.75" this is from a rifle out of box, just add a scope. I like the cheap stock its a hunting rifle that gets scratched up and the more scratches means the more fun I've had. The best thing about the Tikka T3 Lite is it weighs a whisker under 7lbs with scope. . Some guys can shoot 400 yards with a 7x scope I could never do that. I wish I had put a top shelf 4x15 on it as I now realize the longer range potential, especially since I am getting into handloading. With a .270 you will experience the same go for a top shelf 4x15 and you will be knocking down mulies at 400 yards no problem. I think the T3 Lite is lighter than the Savage I recommend the T3 Lite. Get a top shelf scope, the right ammo and that is all you need for Tikka to perform like a $3K hunting rifle.
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Unread 12-22-2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: Absolutely Torn: Savage and Tikka

While new here at LRH...I am certainly not new to shooting or rifles..I've been at it most of my adult life..

I've had several 270 rifles before..from single shots to bolt guns..Some have been 1 holers with all bullet weights..some have been boat anchors..Almost none of them have been moa rifles out of the for 1 pre USRA model 70 Westerner..and 1 Sub MOA Weatherby 270

I've also owned several Savages as well..and well..they have never really gave me any confidence as they came from the box..but I knew if I wanted them to be excellent rifles I would have to tweak it some to get good performance..

I have only shot 1 Tika lite and that was in 243..Accuracy wasn't anything to write home about with it was a friends who had just purchased it a few days before for last years deer season..He spent a lot more for it over the Savage/Stevens well as the Vangards from Weatherby..or any of the other budget rifles out there..Marlin/Remington/Mosseberg..

The bad thing to me (it might not mean anything for you) about the Savages here in my their resale value is in the toilet..You can pick up several different Savages for the $200-$300 dollar range..same for the Vangards..

A couple things I've learned..get a rifle that has a ton of aftermarket stuff made for it if you like to tweak them..Look at the resale value of your choosen rifle in the used gun racks in your area..

If I only had a few hundred bucks to spend..I would opt for a used 700 Remington bolt..They have the highest resale I've seen..and the most after market parts available around here..and generally can be excellent shooters with a minumum of TLC..

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