Thanks for the replay. I was looking for something that I might only have to ff and do a little trimming. I have a bucket load of 7mm rum brass that I was wanting to use up. I was concidering a 338 Edge but would realy like a .284 cal since I already have a 338-378. With everything being equal, barrel length, action, stock,gunsmith, with the 7mm AM shooting 175gr. MK and the 338 shooting 300 gr.MK with one would have the advantage at 1000 yard. I like I stated before I would really just perferred to have a round that I only had to fire form and some trimming. Someone tell me what I need to have built. I will use it for elk, deer, yotes and the neighbors cat.