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7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

 
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:27 PM
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7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

Hey guys.
I'm buying a new rifle, the question is if I should stick with the old proven 7mm Rem Mag or if I should upgrade to the Ultra Mag. I've had 7mm rem mags in the past and have no complaints.
Are those extra 200fps worth the extra recoil and 20gr of powder??
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:11 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

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Hey guys.
I'm buying a new rifle, the question is if I should stick with the old proven 7mm Rem Mag or if I should upgrade to the Ultra Mag. I've had 7mm rem mags in the past and have no complaints.
Are those extra 200fps worth the extra recoil and 20gr of powder??
IMHO, I would stick with the trusty 7 mag. In some ways, the rum is dead. It will eat a barrel so fast, that by the time you get it to shoot, it is already substantially worn in the throat area. I find them to be finicky to load for, and are waaaay to much over bore. As my screen name implies, I am a 7 STW fan, which is about as much overbore that I think is practical AND SHOOTABLE. Brass is another issue. It is harder to find these days.
Now, the 7 mag, is very underrated. It is exceptionally accurate, is not hard to load for, and guns and brass are everywhere. The seven mag will never go away, but I fear a different fate for the 7 RUM.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:29 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

The 7 RUM is too overbore for any bullet below 180 IMO. I'd only consider it for something like the new 195 gn Berger. Even there I'd move up to 300 or 338 RUM for shots way out yonder.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:47 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

There is something to like with both 7mms. The two 7 RUMs I had shot bullets more than 200 fps over the 7 Rem mag.

Maybe if you were to look at the two chamberings based on where it will be used, size and weight could become the deciding factor. The 7 RUM will come with a 26" barrel which IMO really doesn't wring out its full potential. 7 Rem mags perform well with 24" barrels. Go really light with the 7 RUM and it will be a handfull while the 7 Rem Mag won't. You get the idea of where I am going.

Now that I have begun chambering and installing my own barrels the 7 RUM is more appealing to me. It is a barrel burner but not having to deal with a gunsmith with time delays and all that extra money I have been considering making a longer barreled one in the future. With the 195 Berger coming out soon this would be an awesome LR rig.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:05 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

9000,
These guys are spot on, don't get a 7UM, not worth the trouble. The7RM is the better choice between the two. You can get ammo for it easily and brass is more plentiful if you hand load. I personally am a 7stw man, it is a bit overbore also and you pretty much have to hand load it to get the best performance out of it.
On the other hand, I have shot a 7RM for years and it will do more than you think it will with hand loads and will last forever. I use 160gr. Bullets in mine and it is accurate too.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:12 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

The 2 rifles I'm considering are:
1.- 7mm Rem Mag Browning X-Bolt Stainless Stalker
2.- 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Remington 700 XCR RMEF

I'm considering changing the barrel on the Remington700 for a .338 Broughton 5C so instead of having a 7mm Rem Ultra Mag maybe a .338 EDGE would be a nice addition to my collection.
I'm buying the 7mm Rem Mag X-Bolt any way because I already own a .243win and want to have the pair. The thing is a friend wants to trade me his Rem 700 7mm Rem Ultra for my CZ-550 Varmint Laminated in 22-250 Rem which is my current Coyote Rifle. I think there is nothing that the 22-250 can do that the .243 doesn't do better. But I'm not sure if I want to have a 7mm ultra if I already have a 7mm Rem.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:15 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag VS 7mm Rem Ultra Mag

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9000,
These guys are spot on, don't get a 7UM, not worth the trouble. The7RM is the better choice between the two. You can get ammo for it easily and brass is more plentiful if you hand load. I personally am a 7stw man, it is a bit overbore also and you pretty much have to hand load it to get the best performance out of it.
On the other hand, I have shot a 7RM for years and it will do more than you think it will with hand loads and will last forever. I use 160gr. Bullets in mine and it is accurate too.
FE
I've been loading for my old 7RM and had great results with 150Gr Swift SiroccoII and 154Gr Hornady IB and SST's.

Maybe I'll just trade it and get the .338 barrel.
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