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Unread 11-07-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 284stak View Post
Adjusted my seating depth to 0.010 and 0.015 inches into the lands and shot a 3 shot group with each using the 168 VLD's. At 300 yards, I got a 7 inch and a 9+ inch group .
Have you tried the VLDs with a .010 or more jump?

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Unread 11-07-2007, 12:05 PM
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Eric I have only tested at .015 into the lands just tested the loads in half grain increments, I started there because of everything I have read and I have no pressure signs.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 12:32 PM
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NZ Longranger,
Thanks for the info.
Sounds like I might be able get a little more out of the standard 7 RUM and the 180's but not much seeing that the barrel is only 27" and I'm not using moly coated bullets.
Wayne aka WAMBO
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Unread 11-07-2007, 08:35 PM
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Eric: I have tried the 168 VLD's from .025 jump to .020 into the lands. I have used Retumbo, RL-22, RL-25, H-1000, and 7828ssc --- none of these variables seemed to help. I emailed Walt - he gave me some advice, but in the end, seemed to agree that my barrel just will not shoot them. Seems suprising, as it is super accurate with the 140 accubonds - am going to try the RBBT ULD's once the new jackets are being produced.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 01:48 AM
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284...I've still not gotten mine to shoot less than .906" with the 168gr...When this box runs out, they're out...JohnnyK.
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Unread 11-08-2007, 11:55 PM
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Eric Stecker, I am curious as to why the Berger VLD bullet seems to generally shoot best when jammed into the lands while most other bullets generally shoot best when just touching to about 0.030" off the lands. Thanks, Bruin.
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Unread 11-09-2007, 12:12 AM
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The Berger 168 VLDs shoot great in my 7mm WSM Savage 16FCSS. I load them to just short of the factory 3" detachable mag box (OAL=2.995") and when chambered I can see a slight throat engagement ring all the way around the bullet with no land marks. This is the first time I have ever seen throat engagement (lead?) instead of land marks. Solid ring around bullet instead of lands.

I tried them seated off the lands at a shorter OAL but they did not group much better than 1 1/2" at 100 yds seated deeper.

Found a new way to check engagement into the lands also, take the Crazy Cloth and polish the bullet to a real good shine on a loaded round. Chamber it and then remove. Throat and or land engagement shows up great on a highly polished bullet.

Works much better than putting soot on the bullet from a flame or using a majic marker to color the bullet ...
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