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700P MLR .338 Lapua on its way

 
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:21 AM
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Thanks for the input, everyone!

I have been reading all that I can find on the topic of scopes. I decided to do a little 'shopping' and have been looking critically at - and through - some of the scopes mentioned herein. It appears, to my eyes anyway, that the Bushnell 4200, Nikon Monarch, and Leupold VXII glass are all fairly equal, IMHO.

Considering my .338 Lapua Magnum (w/ 20 MOA Badger base) and up to 1000 yd shooting, my dilemma comes to this: eye relief, reticle choice, overall MOA adjustment, repeatability, and durability.:confused:
I am guessing that with the 20MOA Badger scope base I will still require quite a bit (??) of adjustment to reach 1000 yds, even with a 200 yd zero on the .338 LM. Therefore, I have left off any scope with less than 40 MOA of adjustment (many had as little as 20-something!).


Here are the specs I found, presented in relative price order, staying below $520:
(m/n= model#; ER= eye relief; MOA= total MOA adjustment available)
m/n .... ER (in.) ... MOA ... Reticle ..... 1 click ...... price
Bushnell 3200:
5-15 x 40 ........ 5154M .... 4.3" ....... 50 ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 290
5-15 x 50 ........ 5155M .... 3.4" ....... 40 ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 300
7-21 x 40 ........ 7214M .... 3.3" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot .... 1/4 MOA ..... 360

Nikon Buckmaster:
6-18 x 40 ........ 6473 ...... 3.5" ....... 50 ...... Fine Dplx .. 1/8 MOA ..... 350

Falcon Menace:
4.5-18 x 56 .... MS4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 ... MP-20 ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 390
4.5-18 x 56 .... MM4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 ... MP-20 ...... 0.1 Mrad .... 390

Vortex Viper:
6.5-20 x 44 .... 05BDC ...... 3.3" ....... 68 ...... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480

Bushnell 4200:
6-24 x 40 ...... 6242P ....... 4.6" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/8 MOA ..... 480
6-24 x 50 ...... 6245T ....... 3.0" ....... 50 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500

Nikon Monarch:
4-16 x 50 ...... 8440 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480
5-20 x 44 ...... 8425 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ..........1/8 MOA ..... 500

Millett Tactical LRS-1:
6-25 x 56 ...... 81004 ....... 3.5" ..... 140 ... Mil-Dot ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 500

Leupold VXII:
6-18 x 40 ...... 61295 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500

Leupold Mark 2:
6-18 x 40 ...... 62950 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 519


Here are my questions for you experienced long-range shooters...

I am concerned a bit with eye relief for the .338 LM. Any experiences or advice anyone would care to share?
3.0" seems kinda short to me.

For dual purposes (target and hunting), which reticle(s) would you recommend?

Likewise, there are 3 basic choices for w/e adjustment: 1/4 or 1/8 MOA, and the 0.1 Mrad of the Falcon. Once I get accustomed to it, which would you suggest?

As for the .338 LM, should any/all of the above be reasonably expected to stand up to the recoil?
Somewhat subjective...

I realize this may open the proverbial can-o-worms, but any insight or advice you can share on the above specs would be greatly appreciated, given my "short list", use, and price range!

Thanks in advance, everyone!
- Walt
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:28 AM
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Hello,
I have just taken my second M700P 338 Lapua back to the dealer with a faulty barrel. The rep here in Australia is interested in replacing again and told me to go and buy a Sako. Good factory backup. I know of three other people that have had the same issues. Remingtons QA is obviously not very good. Inspect the barrel just past the throat area. Cheers
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:22 PM
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Thats real nice. I wouldnt worry about that , other people who are not crapping on your thread love that rifle. Get it and shoot it. A benefit of this rifle is the sky is the limit. It will probably be fine.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:37 PM
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If your going to be dialing I feel that you are selling yourself short with your $500 budget, period.

Sure you may be able to buy a sub $500 scope, but with the 338 lapur you are driving a sports car, so put sport tyres on it. I think you will be setting yourself for heartache if you put a cheap scope on a 1000 yard rifle and hope every click is the same , everytime.

No matter how accurate your gun is, if your scope does not track and click exactly right everytime, you will keep on missing 'em.

Forget you are scottish and buy the NF and brag about it !!

Good luck

Cheers

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Old 07-27-2008, 08:38 PM
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Remington 700P MLR

Hi,

I just took delivery of one of these riffles here in Australia. On the whole I am very, very impressed with it. Mine even came from the dealer with a black hard case! All in all quite a bit of gun for the money.

Thank you Remington for making the 338 Lapua Magnum affordable!

I just thoroughly cleaned her, fitted a picatinny scope rail (courtesy of Evolution Gun Works - in PA) and pressed my first dummy test cartridge. Now I too am faced with the choosing of glass.

I think I am going to bite the bullet (so to speak) and save up for a Leupold 8.5-25X50 Mark4. I have a nice Burris med range scope that will get me by in the mean time. Maybe you could do something similar..

-Mike
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:07 PM
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Thanks for all the input, everyone.

I made my decision Friday and have already received a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 x 44 Scope (w/ BDC reticle) - thanks to Scott at LibertyOptics! It is going in IOR 30 mm low-mount alloy rings, and test fits show it complements the Badger 20 MOA rail nicely, with enough clearance all around.

I chose the Vortex Viper because it comes with a lifetime warranty and the features I wanted - all for under $500 (variable, high magnification, pop-up-zero, solid forever warranty).

In looking through the scope (prior to mounting), I can easily see the houses 1 mile away with great clarity at all magnifications. This is equal to (maybe even better) than my Nikon Monarch! I hope to get to the range this weekend to get some real data on the rifle and setup.

More later...
- Walt
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:37 PM
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REM 700p 338lapua

I will be picking up my 700p in 338 lapua hopefully monday if it gets here. I have read good things on this rifle so far, planin to shoot the 300smk. Any one with 338 lapua load experience chime in here. Didn't take me long to get one of these rifles I was expecting alot longer waiting period will find out this week how she shoots. I hope remington's porting job tames the recoil
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