Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine
have buddy who occasionally drops in here, so he might respond.
He bought that Remington 700 in .308, and it shot 1.25" groups with some hand loads (2" with Federal Supremes). For what he wanted it for it was plenty adequate. (200 yard rifle). So he goes back home and drags out this beat up 788 in .308 with a very short barrel. The stock was factory and looked like somebody shot it with bird shot! The barrel had been recrowned, and he did do some minor clean up on the trigger years ago. Otherwise the gun was out of the box stock. He shoots a steady stream of .75" five shot groups at 100 yards! But what sent him into a rage was that he had less than $225 in the entire rifle (scope mounts and all). Now the 700 had a Leupold 3x-9x scope and their bases and rings. The 788 had Weaver bases and rings with a Tasco scope (3x-9x) that he picked up at a flea market for thirty dollars.
He knew that I had reworked the forend of my Remington stock, and two or three Savage stocks, and wanted to know if I could do his Remington. I told him that it was made completely differently than my Remington, and I doubted anything would fix that thing. The trigger was fair at best, and told him to just buy a Rifle Basix. Then do a recrown (Remington's crowning job was beyond suspect) job. For a factory style stock, I'd probably just hunt up a laminate or a VS stock to start with, and then rework it over the winter months. Have no ide what the bore felt like as he did all the cleaning with Pro Shot stuff.
On the other side of the coin, my brother inlaw bought a Savage F116 something (too many letters and numbers to remember). He's left handed, and wanted a 30-06. Plus he's a little recoil shy. The barrel was about 20" before the factory adjustable brake. He also installed a Leupold Var II 3x-9x scope with Burris rings and bases. The stock sucks on a good day, and the old style trigger was what we'd like to forget. He brings two boxes of Federal Supreme factory loads and starts breaking in the barrel. His first groups was about 1.25" cleaning between shots! Later and well into the second box he's shooting 3/4" groups with an occasional flyer. We go home, and take the barreled action out of the stock. The problem was obvious as the forend was moving all over the place. I go over to one of the many waste baskets of arrows (he's a champion bow shooter), and grab a couple arrows. Epoxy them into the forend to help stiffen things up ( seems like we used 2016's or maybe 1816's as it's been awhile). The next day we did some minor sanding and relieving in the forend, and I told him the recoil lug area needed some work. He takes the rifle out, and starts shooting 3/4" groups but we got rid of most all the flyers. The first set of hand loads shot 5/8th's inch groups with Hornaday 165 grain bullets over about 55 grains of 4350 powder. I loaded these with Forster dies. He later bought a Rifle Basix trigger, and rebedded the recoil lug, and claims to be shooting a tad over a half inch with his own hand loads (I don't have any idea what they are).