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700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

 
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:58 AM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

BTW Daniel, my Savage is the model 10P-SR Like this one.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=371119077
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:15 AM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

I have the SPS tac and I love it. Granted it has a b&c medalist stock on it. I didn't find accuracy to be horrible with the hogue. With 168 matchking handloads it put 5 into a bug hole yesterday. My brother in law has the aac-sd version with the faster twist and threaded barrel. It wears the same stock. He has a timney trigger. And we both have Viper PSt's. His shoots the same as mine. Not sure about the rumors on horrible accuracy. I'm also a Savage fan. I have a few in the safe including a new Long Range hunter that I'm not having much luck finding a load for yet.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:40 AM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

A guy I work with bought a Model 700 Tactical .308 with a 20" barrel, guessing its the one y'all are talking about. Think he paid 499. It has a rubber coated synthetic stock. I mounted his Zeiss scope and went to the range with factory loaded 168 match ammo. Took 3 shots to get it where I wanted on the paper and the next 3 out of the rifle went into .280". Completely factory trigger, stock, and a Zeiss scope with fairly heavy crosshairs. I was extremely impressed.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:28 PM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

have buddy who occasionally drops in here, so he might respond.

He bought that Remington 700 in .308, and it shot 1.25" groups with some hand loads (2" with Federal Supremes). For what he wanted it for it was plenty adequate. (200 yard rifle). So he goes back home and drags out this beat up 788 in .308 with a very short barrel. The stock was factory and looked like somebody shot it with bird shot! The barrel had been recrowned, and he did do some minor clean up on the trigger years ago. Otherwise the gun was out of the box stock. He shoots a steady stream of .75" five shot groups at 100 yards! But what sent him into a rage was that he had less than $225 in the entire rifle (scope mounts and all). Now the 700 had a Leupold 3x-9x scope and their bases and rings. The 788 had Weaver bases and rings with a Tasco scope (3x-9x) that he picked up at a flea market for thirty dollars.

He knew that I had reworked the forend of my Remington stock, and two or three Savage stocks, and wanted to know if I could do his Remington. I told him that it was made completely differently than my Remington, and I doubted anything would fix that thing. The trigger was fair at best, and told him to just buy a Rifle Basix. Then do a recrown (Remington's crowning job was beyond suspect) job. For a factory style stock, I'd probably just hunt up a laminate or a VS stock to start with, and then rework it over the winter months. Have no ide what the bore felt like as he did all the cleaning with Pro Shot stuff.

On the other side of the coin, my brother inlaw bought a Savage F116 something (too many letters and numbers to remember). He's left handed, and wanted a 30-06. Plus he's a little recoil shy. The barrel was about 20" before the factory adjustable brake. He also installed a Leupold Var II 3x-9x scope with Burris rings and bases. The stock sucks on a good day, and the old style trigger was what we'd like to forget. He brings two boxes of Federal Supreme factory loads and starts breaking in the barrel. His first groups was about 1.25" cleaning between shots! Later and well into the second box he's shooting 3/4" groups with an occasional flyer. We go home, and take the barreled action out of the stock. The problem was obvious as the forend was moving all over the place. I go over to one of the many waste baskets of arrows (he's a champion bow shooter), and grab a couple arrows. Epoxy them into the forend to help stiffen things up ( seems like we used 2016's or maybe 1816's as it's been awhile). The next day we did some minor sanding and relieving in the forend, and I told him the recoil lug area needed some work. He takes the rifle out, and starts shooting 3/4" groups but we got rid of most all the flyers. The first set of hand loads shot 5/8th's inch groups with Hornaday 165 grain bullets over about 55 grains of 4350 powder. I loaded these with Forster dies. He later bought a Rifle Basix trigger, and rebedded the recoil lug, and claims to be shooting a tad over a half inch with his own hand loads (I don't have any idea what they are).
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:00 PM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

Rickdavis has it figured out. I have SPS tac in a .308. I swapped the Hogue stock for a Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist Style 3 w/ "Hook" and shoot Hornady 168gr AMAX out of that, and it shoots lights out all day.

Im not a huge fan of the Accutrigger, not saying the Xmark is a victory, I just dont like that bladed piece. I remember when I was comparing the two that the AccuStock material were also injection molded but a stiffer material that wouldn't push into the barrel when you were shooting off a bi-pod/sand bags. Perhaps someone on here can tell me if the AccuStocks have any sort of bedding block in it? Seems to me that if either way you are going to want to swap the stock out, why not go with the Remington if they sell for cheaper anyways? $250 upgrade on the stock (which seems like the biggest complaint on accuracy) is a no brainier. You'er either buying a SPS tac and upgrading the stock for around the same price as a Mod 10, giving you a better set up, or you're keeping the stock of your Mod 10, and questioning if you are getting the best your rifle has to offer...or upgrading that and finding yourself a grand into the project.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:59 PM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

My savage LRH has the accustock and it has the bedding block. Supposed to have aluminum all the way up the fore end I believe. It's pretty stiff
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:05 PM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

Thanks for the clarification Rick. I found this on Savage's site that explains a little more about the system. Savage Arms

I remember now, that at the time, the reason I went with the bedding block was due to the varying opinions on whether or not the AccuStock rail system works. That will have to be answered by someone who has experience with the rifle/stock. You'll also have to think about the end use of the gun. I friggen love the B&C stock I bought. But I bought it as a bench gun / coyote crusher. The wide forend is great for bench shooting, but not a great piece of equipment to carry around because it is wider and a little heavier.
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