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Old 10-27-2013, 01:52 AM
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700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

Opinions?? Looking @ 308 in both.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:25 AM
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

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Opinions?? Looking @ 308 in both.

I recently purchased a special run 18" Savage tactical to run as a suppressed hunting rifle. I compared it side by side with the Remington and since the Savage was nearly $100 less, it was a no brainer. The Savage has a detachable mag, 5r buttoned rifling, and a better reputation for accuracy. The Savage shoots great. I broke it in right with my first big game suppressed hunting kill by leveling a bear at 230 yards last Spring with a 168 Etip loaded over RL15.
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I recently purchased a special run 18" Savage tactical to run as a suppressed hunting rifle. I compared it side by side with the Remington and since the Savage was nearly $100 less, it was a no brainer. The Savage has a detachable mag, 5r buttoned rifling, and a better reputation for accuracy. The Savage shoots great. I broke it in right with my first big game suppressed hunting kill by leveling a bear at 230 yards last Spring with a 168 Etip loaded over RL15.
A better reputation for accuracy? Obviously you don't know that the Model 700 has been around since 1967...Pretty sure the model 10 is nowhere near that old.

I would go with the 700 SPS Tactical 20". They are usually 1:10 twist to handle anythjng from 168-230gr pills, alot of the newer ones are 5R button rifled. The SPS Tactical models have a great reputation for accuracy.
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A better reputation for accuracy? Obviously you don't know that the Model 700 has been around since 1967...Pretty sure the model 10 is nowhere near that old.

I would go with the 700 SPS Tactical 20". They are usually 1:10 twist to handle anythjng from 168-230gr pills, alot of the newer ones are 5R button rifled. The SPS Tactical models have a great reputation for accuracy.
Obviously huh? I don't disagree with you about Rem 700s in general for accuracy, but the SPS tactical in particular is well documented to need fairly significant modification to shoot MOA and under, even with reloads. Most of the degraded accuracy is attributed to the flimsy Hogue stock especially when fired from a bipod.

In my case, I figure the Savage saved me at least $300, simply because it was $100 less to start with, has a better factory trigger than the X Mark, and it performs straight out of the box which eliminates the need to deal with replacing the Hogue stock with something more suitable for consistent accuracy.
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Obviously huh? I don't disagree with you about Rem 700s in general for accuracy, but the SPS tactical in particular is well documented to need fairly significant modification to shoot MOA and under, even with reloads. Most of the degraded accuracy is attributed to the flimsy Hogue stock especially when fired from a bipod.

In my case, I figure the Savage saved me at least $300, simply because it was $100 less to start with, has a better factory trigger than the X Mark, and it performs straight out of the box which eliminates the need to deal with replacing the Hogue stock with something more suitable for consistent accuracy.
I will agree about the crappy Hogue stock...And yes, to some that might be a deal-breaker, but as I don't see it as such, because I see that stock as ebay or classifieds material, before the gun ever gets shot. LOL

The X-Mark triggers suck, too. For $50 you can buy an older style trigger and with the help of a YouTube video, a hammer, and a punch, you should be able to swap it out yourself in a matter of 15-20 mins.

My appologies as coming off as a little biased, I do note the differences, however, for the cheaper 700's I either see them as just an action and bottom metal to build off of, or a barreled-action with bottom metal to do a semi-custom build.

I have shot a few SPS Tac's that still had the Hogue stock and they were shooting MOA and under. Honestly, for a $400 rifle, I was pretty impressed.

I went to Mark's Outdoors up in Birmingham, when they had them on sale for $399, and I was gonna buy 2 of them (wish I had atleast bought one now), but instead walked out with a new 700 5R MilSpec 24" .308 10th Anniversary edition. I'm glad I bought the 5R over the SPS Tac, but now I wish I had bought both, so I would have had a cheap action to build a bolt-action 6.5 Grendel, or 6.5 SS (Sherman Short).
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:26 PM
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I will agree about the crappy Hogue stock...And yes, to some that might be a deal-breaker, but as I don't see it as such, because I see that stock as ebay or classifieds material, before the gun ever gets shot. LOL

The X-Mark triggers suck, too. For $50 you can buy an older style trigger and with the help of a YouTube video, a hammer, and a punch, you should be able to swap it out yourself in a matter of 15-20 mins.

My appologies as coming off as a little biased, I do note the differences, however, for the cheaper 700's I either see them as just an action and bottom metal to build off of, or a barreled-action with bottom metal to do a semi-custom build.

I have shot a few SPS Tac's that still had the Hogue stock and they were shooting MOA and under. Honestly, for a $400 rifle, I was pretty impressed.

I went to Mark's Outdoors up in Birmingham, when they had them on sale for $399, and I was gonna buy 2 of them (wish I had atleast bought one now), but instead walked out with a new 700 5R MilSpec 24" .308 10th Anniversary edition. I'm glad I bought the 5R over the SPS Tac, but now I wish I had bought both, so I would have had a cheap action to build a bolt-action 6.5 Grendel, or 6.5 SS (Sherman Short).
I love the Rems as a project rifle, but my intention was to get a compact rifle to run suppressed that would shoot straight out of the box instead of dumping $50-$250 on top of the price of the rifle. The Savage didn't need the extra love. I used the extra dollars for a base, rings, and the last box of Lapua brass that I could find. With the Rem I knew I would replace the stock and the trigger immediately and in my area the SPS Tacs aren't $399, they're at least $600. I may eventually add a higher cap mag to my Savage since I can. Adding DM to an SPS Tac turns into even more money spent.


I'm not a Savage lover, but the Savage was the better rifle in this instance.
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Re: 700 SPS Tactical vs. Model 10 Precision Carbine

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I love the Rems as a project rifle, but my intention was to get a compact rifle to run suppressed that would shoot straight out of the box instead of dumping $50-$250 on top of the price of the rifle. The Savage didn't need the extra love. I used the extra dollars for a base, rings, and the last box of Lapua brass that I could find. With the Rem I knew I would replace the stock and the trigger immediately and in my area the SPS Tacs aren't $399, they're at least $600. I may eventually add a higher cap mag to my Savage since I can. Adding DM to an SPS Tac turns into even more money spent.


I'm not a Savage lover, but the Savage was the better rifle in this instance.
Yeah they run $499-599 around here on average, but you can usually catch them on sale for $399-499. Next time I do, I'm snatching one up to use for a 6.5 Grendel or 6.5 SS build, since I ready have a really nice .308 that's stacking anything I feed it.
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