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Old 04-23-2006, 11:54 AM
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6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

I'm considering selling my 7-08 VLS and building a 6.5x06 on a new Zastava sction that I have. I'll probably go with one of the Pac-Nor barrels at 26". It will be used primarialy to 'ring the gong' at various distances to 400yds and ocassionaly when I need a longer range deer/coyote gun. I plan on using 120gr BTs, for plinking and 125PTs or 130 Scirrocos for hunting. I really have no need or want to shoot much farther than 400yds because I dont believe in shooting farther than one can practice. I reload because It is cheaper and that I can buy custom ammo. As far as accuracy goes anything below MOA is acceptable. I would like to get 3100fps with the 120-125s and 3050fps with the 128-130s. Is this 'doable' with the 6.5x06 and using sane loads or am I dreaming a little? I have also considered the AI, but it seems too much trouble, for the gain, to me. Also, which twist would you get if the heaviest bullet that I will ever shoot is a 140PT and probably not that? Please give me your opinions. thanks, capt david
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:54 PM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

A friend of mine used a 6.5-06 years ago for long range target shooting. He used Norma 139-gr. match bullets and always full-length sized his cases for best accuracy. They left his 28-inch 1:10 twist Hart barrel about 2900 fps and he got test groups at 600 yards of about 3 to 4 inches. His barrel lasted about 900 rounds before it immediately went to 2-foot groups at 600 yards.

You may well get the muzzle veloctiy you want with the bullets you plan to use. But I'd be satisfied with a bit less muzzle velocity and a lot better accuracy. Best wishes in your endeavour.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:29 PM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

Captdavid, go with the 6.5x284. With the 6.5x284 you should be able to get close to 3400 fps with a 120grn bullet and 3300 with a 125grn bullet out of a 26" barrel. Plus, Lupa and Norma make EXCELLENT 6.5x284 brass. By going with 6.5x284, you will not have to due any necking down.

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Old 04-23-2006, 09:30 PM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

Bart B,

900 rounds!? Man, that would concern the heck out of me. I was thinking of rebarreling my 700 to the same 6.5-06 in a Lilja barrel. Anyone else have similar or different experiences?

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Old 04-24-2006, 04:04 AM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

Big Al, my .264 Win. Mag. long range rifle went 640 rounds befor its barrel went sour. My friend with the 6.5x06 told me I wouldn't get more than 700 rounds out of it; he was right.

Another friend of both his and mine now uses a 6.5x.284 as does his wife and two daughters for long range matches. His wife and oldest daughter co-hold the iron sight 1000-yard prone record (200-16X) both with the 6.5x.284. He rebarrels those rifles at 1500 rounds. I don't think they take a barrel to the Nationals with more than 700 rounds through it as after that the barrels' accuracy degrades a little bit.
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Old 04-24-2006, 08:11 AM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

Does your LVS not shoot well ? For shooting out to 400yds as a max I would think that the 7-08 would be great even with the lighter bullets in the 120-140 gr class.
I personaly don't see any reason to need any more speed or or any more power for deer out to 400yds than the 7-08 has hell even the 243 would be good option.

you would be well served by taking your VLS ,assuming that its accuracy isin't up to snuff , and having it rebarreled to say a 260Rem , you'll be able to shoot the same great high BC bullets as the 6.5-06 and you'll get alot longer barrel life and all that would be required would be a new barrel and the smiths work.

another option would be the 308 Win , but for 400yds shooting at targets and the rare deer or yote I woulden't look any farther than what you have
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Old 04-24-2006, 07:52 PM
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Re: 6.5x06 vs 6.5x06AI

I may be [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] but I have this Zastava action and Boyd JRS stock. It's a long action. I want to complete that project. I'm trying to decide on a caliber 6.5x06, 270 or 280 and need the money from the sale of the VLS to complete the job. It shoots well 1.25" groups with 139gn Hornady LMs @2980 and .75" with 140BTs at 2800fps HLs. I might not get the Mauser to shoot any better, but that's the direction that I'm heading. capt david
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