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Old 07-25-2014, 04:48 PM
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6.5 mm cartridge family is growing

Nosler has recently released the "26 Nosler" based on a Rem. 7 mm mag. case. (Yep, yet another 6.5 mm "magnum.)

IMHO I feel it's OK for hunting but I would not want to compete with that bruiser all day. The 6.5-284 Norma mag is pretty much at the limit of my PLT ("Punishment Tolerance Level") and that may be why we see many long range competitors using it instead of anything faster.

But with all these nice 6.5 mm's, from the 6.5 Grendel up to the 26 Nosler we have a wide range of choices in that caliber. Maybe this signals a new acceptance by American shooters of the 6.5 mm family. My choice? 6.5 Creedmoor. Sort of a mid-level cartridge but plenty flat shooting, not a barrel burner and not a punisher.

Comments? Preferences? Gripes? Fantasy 6.5 mm cartridges?
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Re: 6.5 mm cartridge family is growing

We've known about the .26 Nosler for quite some time now. Several members on here even have one. Also, it's not based on the 7mm RM case, it's based on a shortened .404 Jefferey case, which is a non-belted case.

The 6.5 that uses the same case as the 7mm RM is the .264 Win Mag. And actually, the .264 WinMag came about before the 7mm RM, and the 7mm RM was designed off of it.

Also, barrel life on the .26 Nosler is not expected to be very good...
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Re: 6.5 mm cartridge family is growing

Mud Runner,

I meant to Nosler was made from a 7 mm Rem ULTRA mag., which it is. Early testing rounds were even head stamped that way.
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Mud Runner,

I meant to Nosler was made from a 7 mm Rem ULTRA mag., which it is. Early testing rounds were even head stamped that way.
I'm well aware of this. The .26 Nosler is based on the Remington Ultra Mag cases. Which are based off the .404 Jefferey. Hence, the .26 Nosler is based off the .404 Jefferey.
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Re: 6.5 mm cartridge family is growing

It (the 26nos) should be a heck of a round if you watch how many rounds you run through the rifle. I want one but at present I'd likely have to sell a kidney to afford one. I'm not broke but not in the big ticket rifle game either at present; if rem, tikka, or win chambered it in lh ss I'd be on it like a cat on catnip.

You don't need more than the 120-140 grain bullet range to cleanly kill most of what I hunt so the bigger than 30 cal rifles are more than is really needed. A bigger hole will sure drop critters faster, but why do you need 300 grains of bullet to knock down a 200# critter?
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Re: 6.5 mm cartridge family is growing

When I look at the 6.5 mm "family" I see that the ancient (1890) 6.5X55 Swedish cartridge is also a "medium" size cartridge of that group. It is still used in Europe, mainly in Scandanavian nations, for competition.

What I'm wondering is why it is not used more here in the US for hunting. My very first rifle back in 1962 was a $30. surplus military Swedish Mauser Mountain Carbine. A heavy little sucker but fairly accurate with an American Marble peep sight. Stupidly I sold it for $40. cash when I needed money as I went off to the Philippines with the Peace Corps. (They only paid us $60./month in-country.)
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When I look at the 6.5 mm "family" I see that the ancient (1890) 6.5X55 Swedish cartridge is also a "medium" size cartridge of that group. It is still used in Europe, mainly in Scandanavian nations, for competition.

What I'm wondering is why it is not used more here in the US for hunting. My very first rifle back in 1962 was a $30. surplus military Swedish Mauser Mountain Carbine. A heavy little sucker but fairly accurate with an American Marble peep sight. Stupidly I sold it for $40. cash when I needed money as I went off to the Philippines with the Peace Corps. (They only paid us $60./month in-country.)
All of the old mauser cartridges have suffered in the U.S. for three reasons:

1) SAAMI specs dictate that they are loaded to such low pressures that their performance is emasculated.

2) They are intermediate in length, which means they are too long to use in a short action, while giving up case capacity to the more common 30-06 length cartridges normally housed in a long action.

3) Factory ammo is less available, with fewer options, and underperforms compared to comparable domestic chamberings.

The 6.5x55 is the only non-wildcat 6.5 chambering, with a smaller case than 6.5-284, that is not a short action cartridge. So, it tends to be overlooked in favor of 6.5-284 and larger cases in a long action and .260 Remington and smaller cases in a short action.

The 98 Mauser, Winchester Model 70, and Ruger 77 actions are all about the perfect length for the Swede, but are not chambered for it from the factory. In any of those actions, the Swede can be loaded to modern pressures. Loaded to its potential, the Swede will easily outperform the short action 6.5's and isn't far behind the 6.5-284.

The 6.5x55 is my favorite non-magnum, non-wildcat 6.5 chambering. But, it requires handloading to reach its potential and is available in only a very few factory rifles, which turns a lot of people off. If I am going to reach for a 6.5, I either go for the mild mannered Swede or step all the way up to the .264 WM.
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