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Old 07-08-2010, 06:58 AM
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Chas, thats interesting. Especially since the New 5C Broughton I have on order is going to replace the new (75 round) Kreiger 4 land I am taking off. What a waste of good bullets.. I can't say for sure my problem was the barrel design. It could have been any number of things that caused the unacceptable accuracy, or lack of. But I do know I have bought my last barrel with 4 lands. That said, I fully believe any manufacturer can make a bad barrel. And I also believe if you get one that does not shoot, get a new barrel. I have beatin my last dead horse.

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I'd send that barrel back to Krieger if I thought it has 'problems'. At 75 rounds it's just getting broke in good. One could write a paragraph about an accuracy problem with a rifle but it would all be just speculation. There's alot of different things that are going to affect accuracy, not just the barrel. I'd have given Krieger a 'shot' at the problem before I gave up on a 'new' barrel.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:14 AM
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Re: 5r rifled barrels

I have 2 Kiegers barrels on order - both will have 5R rifling!!!!!
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:31 AM
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I'd have given Krieger a 'shot' at the problem before I gave up on a 'new' barrel.
Yes, many things can cause a problem like this. I drew my best conclusion and went that direction with it.

I did give Kreiger a "shot" at the problem. That was the call I made. By the end of the onversation I could read the writing on the wall. Heck, I might be taking off an awesome accurae barrel.

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Old 07-08-2010, 09:05 AM
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Re: 5r rifled barrels

By 'give 'um a shot' , I mean send it back. I ordered a barrel for a customer about 3 weeks ago. Kriegers' phones are so busy I had to leave a voice mail so they could call me back so I could place the order! I would hope and expect that a barrel being returned would get alot more attention than a phone call when their phones are that busy. Can you imagine, just for a minute, what some of those calls must be like? Actions always speak louder than words.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:06 AM
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Re: 5r rifled barrels

I have to agree with Shortgrass on this one. The Item is not shooting related, but demonstrates this example well enough I think. I had bought Courtlands top of the Line Fly line. It was Terrible!! Instead of calling them I wrote a letter and sent it and the fly line back to them. Now it was not a barrel to be sure but apples to apples it was this companies flagship product. Their prima-vera so to speak. You should have seen the service I got. Amazing. They contacted me the day it arrived and the next day had a new line out to me. Within a few days I went from completely dissatisfied junk line to premier fly line. I believe that it was because I sent it in rather than called it in.

My letter went something like this. Hello my name is, I have used your products before with good success, this line is crap, it fails in this list of ways, i don't want it, you keep it, use it for R&D, please send me your bottom end line because it is better. sincerely, me.

It got replaced with the new top of the line, line and I couldn't be more pleased with it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:35 AM
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Re: 5r rifled barrels

Ok, but compare this. What did it cost to install the new fishing line?


I agree with you two 100%. But here is how I looked at it and I had to make a decision about the future of my rifle as time is a concern. As I stated, at the time of the call all they offered was 4 land rifling. I had concerns that the 4 land application may not be in my best interest after getting substandard accuracy. So even if they offered me a new one, I didn't want it. I had one and it didn't meet my expectations. They informed me the 4 land was fine for what I was doing and quote "this is how we make barrels". This was about 2 months ago. They didn't offer to inform me that they were getting ready to offer 5R barrels. Hmmm. Why? This was the reason I called, to discuss 4 vs 5 or 6 lands and my application. I am not trying to bash Kreiger, no, not at all. I have one of their barrels on a small cal and it shoots fine. Like I said before, in all fairness, anyone can make a bad barrel. Maybe I am taking off a good barrel. Maybe it is not even the barrel at fault. It is a new full custom build. It is completely apart and has been fully inspected again and again. I had to make a call to fix this rifle. My call was a new barrel and not one with 4 lands. Back to my first post, all the 5C and 5R 's I have been around were above normal custom barrel standards.

If I knew for a fact it was the barrel and Kreigers fault I would seek reimbersment or replacement. But I won't know till I am done. It cost time and money to get a barrel in, get it properly installed, add a muzzle brake, brake it in, load development, compoenents, etc. . I chose not to go back with the same thing, I will soon know if I made the correct call.

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Re: 5r rifled barrels

Sincerely, I hope that you find your decision works for you and I am sure that it will. I do know that there must be something to the 5 rifling method that works. Otherwise why would they be using them on Marine sniper rifles? Not only this but several makers are switching over to 5r. Thompson Center, Sako, Tikka, and others. I would guess that you are making a good choice. I am sure that by the time that you made your decision that the frustration was at an all time high.

Keep us posted. I would be interested to know what you find out.
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