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Old 06-20-2009, 09:23 AM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

Thank Booney but the purshace is not for "right now". My friend and i didnt have acces to the 375(either kind) but we like clasique so the hh one will be our choose. Y stick with the 338win for my hunt sins the shoot are more likly to be closse.
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:00 AM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

I've had both, a .375 H&H and a .375 Ultra mag. The ultra mag is like the H&H on steroids. I sold the H&H and the .375 Ultra mag is one of my favorite rifles.

I've taken my .375 ultra mag to Africa twice, taking 18 animals from Steinbok to Cape Buffalo. Most were one shot kills at ranges from 30 yds to 348 yds. The first trip I was shooting 300 gr Barnes TSX bullets at 2840 fps. The second trip I shot 270 gr TSX bullets at 3043 fps (that's 5553 ft-lbs of energy!). Both bullets shoot 3-shot sub moa groups. That's accurate enough and enough energy for any bear or moose on the planet.

My .375 ultra mag is a model 700 Remington that out of the box was very unpleasant to shoot. I restocked it in a laminated stock (that fits me!) and is pillar and glass bedded, has a Limbsaver recoil pad, and a mechanical recoil reducer in the stock. I also have a KDF muzzle brake on the barrel. 95+ Grains of powder is LOUD with or without a muzzle brake. Unloaded and without a sling my .375 ultra mag weighs 9 1/2 lbs. It's now comfortable to shoot, even from a prone position.

Someone mentioned the availability of ammo. .375 H&H ammo has been around a long time and is more widely available than ammo for the ultra mag. You will also pay a premimum price for .375 ultra mag ammo. If you handload, you can taylor the ammo to your rifle, and the ultra mag ammo will only cost about 5 cents more for each round than handloaded .375 H&H ammo.

If I ever hunt Cape Buffalo again or Asian Water Buffalo or Brown bear, my rifle of choice will be my .375 Ultra mag with 270 gr Barnes TSX bullets.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:59 PM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

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I've had both, a .375 H&H and a .375 Ultra mag. The ultra mag is like the H&H on steroids. I sold the H&H and the .375 Ultra mag is one of my favorite rifles.

I've taken my .375 ultra mag to Africa twice, taking 18 animals from Steinbok to Cape Buffalo. I was shooting 300 gr Barnes TSX bullets at 2840 fps. The second trip I shot 270 gr TSX bullets at 3043 fps (that's 5553 ft-lbs of energy!). Both bullets shoot 3-shot sub moa groups. That's accurate enough and enough energy for any bear or moose on the planet.

My .375 ultra mag is a model 700 Remington that out of the box was very unpleasant to shoot. I restocked it in a laminated stock (that fits me!) and is pillar and glass bedded, has a Limbsaver recoil pad, and a mechanical recoil reducer in the stock. I also have a KDF muzzle brake on the barrel. 95+ Grains of powder is LOUD with or without a muzzle brake. Unloaded and without a sling my .375 ultra mag weighs 9 1/2 lbs. It's now comfortable to shoot, even from a prone position.

If I ever hunt Brown bear, my rifle of choice will be my .375 Ultra mag with 270 gr Barnes TSX bullets.
Sorry for digging up an old thread and getting off topic. Dear buffybr, I envy you for having such a fine shooting rifle. But unless you'll be hunting Brown bear over a pile of moose kill, pls forget about your heavy cannon. A heavy rifle is a hindrance on true brown bear hunt in Alaska. Imagine the hip boots and several streams you need to cross, thick alders and willows, heavy clothings and raingear that would bog you down in sweat no matter how well they breathe. Day pack with binocs ammunition, grubs etc, and you can see what I'm tryiong to get at.
PS Post edited deleting nonsense details. My apology

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Old 09-01-2009, 11:38 AM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

Better go light and précise than hevy and exausting.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:06 PM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

Sportmuaythai, thanks for your advise and your bear story, but I have never felt burdened by the extra two pounds of my 9 1/2-10 pound rifles.

Four of my primary hunting rifles are in this weight class: my .375 RUM (9 3/4 lbs loaded w/ sling) which I have used on two hunts in Africa for spot and stalk hunts on 18 animals from Steinbok to Buffalo.

My .30 Gibbs (10 lbs loaded w/ sling) which I used for over 35 years on DIY (and mostly by myself) hunts taking 30 elk, two Alaskan Caribou, about a dozen each Pronghorn Antelope and Mule or Whitetail deer, and a Mountain Goat that was a solo hunt in mid November in Montana's Lee Metcalf Wilderness that was at 8-10,000 feet elevation with 1-2 feet of snow and at -15*F, and for two Shiras Moose (one of these was also a solo hunt several miles into the Metcalf Wilderness).

My .257 AI (9 3/4 lbs loaded w/ sling) that I carried on many Montana Bighorn Sheep hunts, including 4 solo hunts that were successful on Rams; a solo backpack hunt in Montana's Absoroka Beartooth Wilderness Area where I killed a 6-pt Bull Elk; a backpack hunt in Canada's Mackenzie Mountains where I took a Dall ram and a Mountain Caribou; and another 15-20 each Pronghorn Antelope and Mule or Whitetail deer. Many of the Deer and Antelope hunts were solo hunts where I walked up to 20 miles per day.

My .300 Wby Vanguard (10 lbs loaded w/ sling) that I just finished building this past winter that will be by new Elk and African Plains Game rifle.

My other big game rifle is a stainless/synthetic stocked 7mm Rem Mag (9 1/4 lbs loaded w/ sling) that I have taken to Africa twice for PG from Mountain Reedbuck to Kudu, to Canada for two BG Caribou and a Musk ox, and it is my foul weather rifle here at home that I've killed Elk and Pronghorns with.

I guess my point here is that if you get in good physical shape before you go on a hunt (I'm 63 yrs old, walk several miles a day, and lift weights 3 days a week), remove some of the excess stuff from your day pack (I see many guys on the outdoor TV channels that are either way overweight or carry huge daypacks), an extra pound or two in rifle weight will not make that much difference hunting.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:06 AM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

375 RUM - H&H can't compete. Energy and velocity - H&H - no competition. RUM, newer, better, save your life one day. Your comfort zone will be your demise. Take that seriously.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:41 AM
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Re: 375HH mag or 375 ultramag?

I have a 375 rum in the first model 700XCR. Its a VERY light rifle for this cartridge. But a Holland style muzzle brake solved my issue and now its nice to shoot; (even off the bench) its One of my most accurate rifles. Lays 260 accubonds one over the next at 100 yds. 3050 fps Muzzle velocity measured at 15 ft. I've killed a couple bull elk with it and love the effect it has. Is it more than needed? sure! but one of my favorite hunting rifles now because of its light weight and accuracy. This is an OLD thread but I think the OP would be served well with either 375 depending on personal tastes.
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