Dave at LeHigh told me they could build a two piece, expanding, CNC machined bullet with very high bc but it would cost $4 per bullet. He can only machine 150 per hr compared to many thousands per hr for Barnes or Nosler. Also assemblying the two parts must be automated for him to do it and that is another big expense.
So I think we're looking at the Berger VLDs or the Al tipped custom jobs as our best bet for future improvements in 338 or 375 hunting bullets.
Last edited by Varminator 911; 08-24-2008 at 05:46 PM.
Fiftydriver, I am not a bullet maker, however I am an optimist when it comes to mans ability to overcome obstacles in pushing technology in any field foward. The work being done on the solids will be the testing and proving grounds for high bc bullets. It is here the limit will be pushed and and the opitimum relationship in bore/bullet demension, twist rates, gain twist, number of grooves, number size and location of the bands, and a host of other unknowns will be worked out. After this work is complete someone will develop the materials and manufacturing techniques to produce hunting bullets that will mimic the performance of these solids so close that a hunter will be able to shoot the solids and also have the more expensive hunting bullets to use on game with minor adjustments. Until then we will have to rely on what is available, the alum. tipped seem to be the top of the food chain right now.
Good points. I too think we'll have much better, high bc hunting bullets someday. In the meantime it could be fun shooting the solids on paper or elsewhere. I could get interested in testing the limits of a 1.5 bc bullet.
Yep, this is going to be fun, if it all comes togather and we wind up with a 1.5 BC 400 gr. projo flying 3300-3400 ish there is going to be a new chapter written in the ELR book. I think this may be doable very soon; however, there also needs to be sub-moa accuracy and this is where the problem may arise. It may also be that these things wont fly at all and may make big oblong holes in everything they hit. Before anyone gets their drawers in a wad, the 1.5 BC is just a guess and the 3300 fps goal is contingent on new propellants and a new case design driven through a gain twist barrel, all of which is still in development. The first tests as far as I know will be at around 2800fps (hopefully) through a constant 8 twist. Everybody just sit back and enjoy the spectacle. I am nothing more than a guinea pig in all this and I'm OK with that.
I too have a new case im working on. The first prototype rifle will be in testing very soon.
400grn bullets in the 3300fps range. But i will start another thread when testing starts.
Being a Guinea Pig is part of the fun, not everything works out as planned but when it does, that is where you get your gratification. Most people dont realize just how much R&D goes into such projects...$$$$ Its easy to do all the work and someone comes along and copies
your ideas, this is why from now on i make all my stuff proprietary.