My first big bull in 2010 scored 341 B&C, My bull in 2012 scored 345 B&C. The 345 bull weighed 465lbs fully dressed, no hide, no lower legs. Dont know on my 2010 bull as we butchered it ourselves but I actually think he was bigger body wise by a good amount judging by the amount of meat we got.
I should clarify, It isn't that the 7STW didn't get the job done, obviously it did. Thing is I would like to see some bigger wound channels as I shoot boiler room if possible, not shoulder shots. To that though, I really like the way this Blackhawk Axiom stock feels on my daughters rifle and now I want one or a thumbhole desighn. So I want to step up the horse power with this new rifle as I cant restock my Sako. My Sako will be my speedgoat gun and backup rifle to the new gun. The new gun will be filling a larger purpose in the future than just elk hunting.
Right now I found a smoking deal on a .300 WBY Mark V for $500. The bbl may be shot out but for that price I could rebbl it to whatever I want. I also found a .340 Wby Alasakan stainless for $899 that is top shape. I really like the 60deg bolt lift on the Mrk V's. Hoever with them I cannot do the Axiom stock, only a laminated thumbhole. For $600 I could get a new Vanguard 300WBY stainless, use the Axiom stock, rebarrel it if I decide with the .340WBY.
So here is the next question, How expensive is a typical barrel swap?
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To do a rebarrel, you're looking at 500-600 bucks.
A new barrel is $300-$350 depending on options & to have it threaded, chambered & crowned you looking at $200-ish.
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I'm for experimenting and having fun doing it... can't beat good ole' imagination but I can't see why the .338 WM is not enough for elk even with a great bullet like a nosler partition or barnes -bullet. I would think that no elk could take a chest hit from either bullet and take to many steps. Your right about the costs, around $350 for a barrel, another $200 for the ream job and fitting but you forgot the true-ing of the action, no use going this far and not doing that...that's another $150 or so depending on who's doing what. My local gun shop Grices Gun Shop in Clearfield PA check out their home page and click on the shooters sale flyer found at the bottom of the insert on the right side.. and see what they have on sale next weekend... man luck with your conversion but I still can't see why a .338 is not enough..
I shot a 338 win mag for many years and it kills elk with authority as long as the range is within reason. I moved up to the 338 rum for the same reason a guy goes from a 350 small block to a duramax diesel. The 350 will get you there, but the duramax does it easier. I have a pet loads that shoot 225 gr accubonds @3300, 225 Barnes TTS @3250 and 300 gr Bergers at 2830
This last year I shot the 300 gr Berger exclusively just for some long range kills. I big bodied 5 point bull at 550 that crumpled at the shot. A small meat muley at 620 drt and several antelope. Good results.
For the previous 5 years I shot the 225 NAB and nothing ever went more than a few feet with most DRT
I also used some 250 gr partitions for one year on my previous barrel and they did ok with a kill at 542 on a 6 point bull, but I was disappointed with how much of the bullet peeled off leaving only a core to punch through to the vitals after breaking a shoulder.
I also used barnes X's in 210s for a few years and they did very well leaving the muzzle at 3400
Remington model 700 300 RUM LH 26" rem ss/blued receiver lam stock 215 Berger @3070/180 NAB @3300
Remington model 700 338 RUM LH 26" Bartlein 5C #4 Muscle Brake, blueprinted action, sako extractor, jewell trigger, bell and carlson Alaskan stock
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I know I know I know........I am officially a hypocrite....... There is a Rem 700 stainless jeweled .338 WinMag for sale in my local classifieds for a smokin deal! It has a B&C black/white web finish stock, a cheap Burris scope, decent base, and ammo. I am meeting the guy in a little bit when I get off work.
Should I keep it the .338 WinMag, ream to .338 RUM and put a Wyatt's extended box mag, or do I just snatch everything off, and put a 7mmSTW barrel on it and have another STW?
Also, since it is a magnum action, would I, or would I not be able to convert it to a standard action, due to the wider feed rails? Or are the feed rails on a .338 WM the same as a standard action, but the only difference being the bolt face opening? In other words, by swapping a few things around, would I still be able to make a .280 AI out of this action just by swapping bolts, or is it not possible since it is a magnum action?
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Originally Posted by WildRose
The 284 is to the STW what a tricycle is to a Ninja.
A couple of .338 win mags with 24" barrels.
A Rem SPS that started off as a 7mm Rem mag and is now a .338 RUM with a 26.5" stainless #4 barrel.
And I run a .338 Edge with a 30" barrel.
The introduction of the Berger Elite Hunter 250gn projectile has boosted the performance of both the .338 win mag and the .338 RUM. As such I don't use the .338 Edge now days as the lighter rifles can shoot so much further so easily that its not much advantage to carry the heavy .338 Edge anymore.
If I was starting out now days, I would simply get a .338 RUM built on a light weight stock with a 26 or 27" #4 barrel. Rifle weight just under 10lbs all up and capable out to 1k easy.
But if you only want to go to 600 yards or a bit further, then a .338 win mag will do a great job also.