Thanks anyway AJ, but really not needed for my purpopses. Would be good to post the information on the net for informational purposes. I've been scratching for those numbers and if they are out there, I just haven't found them yet. I just think ANY specific information relating to the hows and whys of NOT doing the 338 Lapua would be of great help because I KNOW this will come up again and again as people find the Lapua and start wondering. A very specific statement would present the information and stop most of the questions...I think or I hope anyway.
Your H1000 load according to my LD is running right at 57KCUP, close to the max. BUT as you probably well know the're are a lot of variables going on that many don't understand. That load might NOT be actually producing that amount of pressure in YOUR gun. The only way to know is to do a pressure test, maybe with RSI's pressure system.
Try the Fed 215's if you haven't already. They are more consistent than any other primers I have used. I use them in most of my large capacity, slower burning powder cals.
I don't get out that far much anymore...body all shot to H...eyes and finger work about as well as a cat and a rat together. 5-600 yds with the 243 and 22-243, sometimes I break out the 7mm RM or get fancy with the 375. I'm getting all antsy to try the 500 AR with some A Max or solid brass match. Velocity will be so low it will be like shooting my 45-120, rainbow all the way.
And thank you Edge. That is a very good example, and Dan presented the facts and numbers to back them up. High pressures are what kills using the large based cases. I remember reading that article sometime past.
BUT, and this is a very large BUTT, you can use large cases to attain higher velocities with lower pressures IF you understand HOW and stay within specific parameters...it always cost you more powder to get the same velocity as a smaller case but you can get the higher velocities and lower pressures. There is a point of very quick diminishing returns that approaches very fast when you start playing in that yard.
You can take a look at some of the Gibbs cartridges and see that happening. But with those hogs you usually run into recoil problems WAY before you run into pressure problems at least for the average, "normal" mortal.
To do this king of 'catting you also need a software program like Load from a Disk or Quick Load.
You need to do the low, slow belly crawl in your ghillie, up on ANY kind of wildcatting and that includes the reloading end.
A couple years back I built a 458 WM using a SMLE 2A action. Jeez, you would have though I had jumped on the Pope after I posted what I had done. WITH ALL the specifics relating to reloading for that receiver and how to go about creating a safe 458 WM load right out of the Hornady 2006 manual, and how easy it was to do.
Not withstanding it isn't the most desirable receiver most people think about but it is a STRONG action in many ways. I can also shoot 45-70 and 45-90 rounds in it.
I did it because the 458 WM case is MUCH easier to get to feed in the standard 303 or 308 mags...I won't even try a large rimmed 45-70 even by cutting down the rim to .575". I ran all kinds of case lengths and bullet seatings for a COAL of 3.02". The 458WM fit well so I used it.
If I had done a 450 Marlin or something based on the 444 M case I don't think there would have been ANY redazz. And yes it will handle a few factory loads, but not recommended. My loads are well within safe limits for the action at 40,000 psi taking into cosideration the bolt head size.
These examples all relate in some way to the question of a Lapua case based cartridge for the Savage. It might work even better by going up to 50 cal as long as the pressures were kept down. The RUM can be taken up to 45 cal easily enough and the 500 AR is nothing more than a necked up to .510 Lapua case, which was based on the Rigby case, shortened to 2.65" and a COAL around 3.4-3.6". Running the pressure aroung 45KPSI will give me way more thump and both ends than is needed except for those immortals who can take it.
Thanks Geargrinder...it takes me a while to get wound up and really cut loose and I've never been know for my patience. I usually don't suffer fools at all. I usually get P.O. with the usual garbage and blow it off. This time I just hung it out there and kept punching. I included a lot of information I usually never bother to put in, most of it hard earned and paid for out of MY pocket. There is so much information available and sooooo many walls. So much immediate gratification and not much swapping. I got mine, forget you BS. It's a pity we go defensive most of the time, way too soon. Life teaches us that tho'. Plus many of the forums are populated with a macho-man mentality and no way are you going to tell a hard head how to lick an ice cream cone. I come from the John Wayne era. You hold your water and don't whine when someone jumps in your face, on or off the net, but I'm also fairly well educated in many areas and slightly mild manored, but I'm a junk yard dog at heart. I don't bark, I just jump and bite. Another of lifes lessons that saved my bacon many times. I like John Travolta very much as an actor and a person, but Dancing???? Hahahaha, I liked him best in movies like "Swordfish" and "Face off".
The point being, as I have stated in the other posts, there are many ways to get to Disneyland.
Luck on your quests.