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Old 08-23-2013, 09:16 PM
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338 lapua

I found a savage 110 fcp with a vortex viper pst 6-24 with a bi-pod for 2399 new and i know its probably more then i need in minnesota but i have planning on some antelope hunts and i want to do an elk hunt. So what i want to know is that a good price and is this going to be more than i want and can i load it down for deer here. I have a 300 win mag and know this thing is a lot more then that. Really just need to be talked out of buying it lol or think i am getting it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:26 AM
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Re: 338 lapua

Have you done any research on that rifle? If you have then you are aware of their iffy success with their rifles chambered in 338 Lapua. Tons and tons of threads/discussions out there talking about heavy bolt lift, stuck cases, and poor accuracy. And I speak from experience. I had the 110BA. I had all three problems. Best group was like 1.5"@100 yards. And I couldn't get 5 rounds downrange without having to at the least hammer on the bolt handle to extract the case.
Just warning you. Some of them happen to shoot, so you might get lucky.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:45 AM
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Re: 338 lapua

thanks for the reply and yes i had done research and had heard some good and bad yours sounds worst i had heard guess ill do some more looking b4 i take the leap
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:39 AM
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Re: 338 lapua

I think the issues have more to do with inadequate reloading procedures as well as substandard brass than anything else, case in point, Hornady marketed some 338 brass that wasn't up to the case pressure attained in the 338 caliber and lots of that is still out there.....

If you research the 338 (and discount the Savage entirely) you'll soon find out that it takes a specialized case (why Lapua spent so long in development of the wildcat).

Get yourself a Steyr or a Sako TRG if you have the wallet.

It only takes a couple whiners and everyone assumes it's the fault of a Savage. Thats how the Internet works and thats too bad.

I have a Savage chambered 338. It's heavy, akward (a benchrest shooter, certainly not a pack rifle) but mine is an accurate shooter and I've never 'hammered on anything to extract', but then I don't use substandard brass (only Lapua) and I practice carefully controlled reloading and annealing principles.

My suggestion is don't buy it. One, it's not a Minnesota deer rifle, two it's heavy and three, it takes disciplined reloading or high quality factory loads (read Lapua/Lapua) to effectuate accuracy and longevity.

I think the chrisma of the 338 (longest confirmed sniper kill and all the hoopla on the web) outweighs the actual usefulness of the rifle and caliber. Like the 50BMG in a Barrett platform, the 338 is not for just anyone, in fact, it's for a select few that actually have the knowledge and pre-requisites to utilize it.

That eliminates 90% of the pro firearm population.

Somehow, I believe you are in that 90 percentile.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:20 PM
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Re: 338 lapua

I have 3 --savage 110 fcp 338 lapua rifles...I have had 0 problems with them and they are all deadly accurate...The 110 ba had some issues but as you were told already the hornady brass was usually the problem..My take is buy it because the rifle alone is close to $ 1,800.00 less tax...Use lapua or norma brass and you will have no problems..Just another view from a guy who has 3 of them and if I had a problem I would tell you ...Like everything else there are always lemons and some people get a bad one.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:01 PM
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Re: 338 lapua

...and to reinterate again, Extreme, IMO, just my opinion, not based on anything factual but more of an instinctive feeling, sloppy reloading habits have a lot to do with issues, real or imagined and to a lesser extent the quest to load at maximum levels in less than quality brass.

The case underwent a protracted development period by Lapua prior to it's release, one reason to stick with Lapua. I think people saw the Hornady derrivative as a less expensive means of obtaining cases and that didn't play out to well. Consequently, there is a lot of bad press out there.

The one I own is a very accurate rifle with no issues (other than to remember to fully rack the bolt each time) that seem to appear on various forums.

Having said that, it's still not for everyone. You have to be willing to invest the time in the reloading phase or purchase Lapua pre-loaded ammunition.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:30 PM
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Re: 338 lapua

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...and to reinterate again, Extreme, IMO, just my opinion, not based on anything factual but more of an instinctive feeling, sloppy reloading habits have a lot to do with issues, real or imagined and to a lesser extent the quest to load at maximum levels in less than quality brass.

The case underwent a protracted development period by Lapua prior to it's release, one reason to stick with Lapua. I think people saw the Hornady derrivative as a less expensive means of obtaining cases and that didn't play out to well. Consequently, there is a lot of bad press out there.

The one I own is a very accurate rifle with no issues (other than to remember to fully rack the bolt each time) that seem to appear on various forums.

Having said that, it's still not for everyone. You have to be willing to invest the time in the reloading phase or purchase Lapua pre-loaded ammunition.
I agree with what you are saying and I just added what I know about this rifle and cal..Like everything else in this game ,,you must invest time and money to make it work...So I agree with you ,but I also know that 1 bad apple can riun a bushel
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