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Old 04-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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338 Edge bullet for elk

Iím going to have another 338 Edge with a more pack-friendly heavy sporter contour in about 27" finish length. I am wondering what bullet would be best for elk. When I plug the numbers into the ballistics calculators, the 300 SMK blows most of the others away with regard wind drift and energy but the impact velocity is so slow I donít know if it will open up on game. The 225 and 250 Accubond also drop below 1800 fps at 1150 yards or so. This doesn't extend the range of an Edge a whole lot more than my 300 Win with 210 Bergers. I believe 1800 fps is what Nosler states as the minimum impact velocity. Am I all wrong in my thinking? Lighter bullets would make recoil more pleasant also.

What are everyoneís thoughts?

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Old 04-19-2011, 05:37 PM
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

Go with the 300 SMK or Berger and don't worry about the impact velocity. Both bullets will kill as far away as you can make a good hit.

You'll need a brake so bullet weight effect on recoil isn't much to worry about IMO.
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

A 338 Norma Mag would be perfect for the barrel length and barrel contour you are thinkig about. 300 SMK would be the ticket. Ever considered a Norma Mag?
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:18 PM
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

Shawn C. has many animals in the dirt w/300 smk,past 1000, and is one of the few to test berger hybrid gen.2. I had gen 1 shoot good in my norma, but velocity was lower, may come back to it. I have some 285 Hornadys to try soon. I have probably shot 15 elk with 225 hornady back when it was one of the few available, out of 340 WM.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:42 PM
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

I hear tell, that GS is coming out with a 270 gr LR hunting bullet soon in the .7-.8 range. How soon, I don't know. Cutting Edge also has a 275 gr bullet that they advertise with a .76 BC @ 3000 fps with. If in fact the BC's are accurate, that gives them an equal BC with less mass, which means more velocity and better LR ballistics.

I've been working with both the GS 177's and CE 180's in my 300 RUM and I don't have any conclusive results yet, other than both are giving better velocities than the conventional bullets. Initial shooting shows the GS bullets are giving me the best velocities and the CE's are giving me the best accuracy as far as I can tell at this point, but I need some more trigger time to sort it out better. At present, I'm shooting these out of a factory barrel. Hoping to be shooting them out of a custom before long.

About the LR GS bullets... They have a very long nose and the ogive is a very short distance form the brass mouth, meaning... a short throat is probably best IMO. With the CE bullets, the throat length may vary depending on which form you use.

For max effective range based on "minimum expansion velocity", according to the ballisitc calcs, my 300 RUM shooting the GS's or CE's will significantly out distance the the 338-300 RUM shooting the SMK or Berger. The 338-300 RUM or 338 LM will arrive down range with more momentum and KE shooting the cup and core bullets. Windage will be close, and drop & TOF will favor the lighter faster bullets.

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Old 04-19-2011, 10:44 PM
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

The Hornady 225 grain Interbond is an excellent long range bullet for the .338 Edge. See photo below of one recently taken from an animal out of a .338WM at 330 yards.
A full report on these bullets and their low velocity impact ability can be read at this link.

http://www.austargets.com/lowvel.htm

Also a comparison to the Accubond here....... http://www.austargets.com/Interbond.htm

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:41 AM
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Re: 338 Edge bullet for elk

MT Rifleman, I ran the #'s on 285 vs 300 and I dont recall my velocity on 285, for my norma. Think I tried 2800, guessing vs. 2725 for 300 hyb. that I HAVE SHOT.What do you think would be realistic 285 accuracy velocity? Anyway Steve on this site shoots a 300-338 lapu I,with that 177 HVGS bullet at 3680 vel., I had a BC of .638, thought I pulled it of there site, which is hard to navigate. The #'s on my 285 vs 300, where about same mil drops out to 1200, with 285 about 200 less E across the board.
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