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Old 05-04-2009, 04:42 AM
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

Well I went to the range to shoot the 265 HATs on target today and learned that my scope went belly up. Must have happened during maximum load workup when I was shooting over the chronographs in the back yard. Got all set up to shoot and when I tried to focus at 300 yds it looked like I had Coke bottle bottoms for scope lenses. Something came apart inside. I'll be sending the scope back for warranty replacement tomorrow.

Sorry, but collecting the range data will now take longer than I'd planned. Dang... I was hoping to get on with it. I'll either have to swap out scopes or wait for a warranty replacement scope to arrive. Guess I'll see how much patience I have.

Yes, a 10-twist barrel has stabilized these 265s at 200' above sea level in Lightvarmint's rifle, so I'm not expecting a stabilization problem - "knock on wood". I'm not sure how many rifles Lightvarmint has fired them in but he's thinking the 10-twist Edge will stabilize them.
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

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Well I went to the range to shoot the 265 HATs on target today and learned that my scope went belly up. Must have happened during maximum load workup when I was shooting over the chronographs in the back yard. Got all set up to shoot and when I tried to focus at 300 yds it looked like I had Coke bottle bottoms for scope lenses. Something came apart inside. I'll be sending the scope back for warranty replacement tomorrow.

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Too bad about the scope, what kind/model is it?

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Old 05-04-2009, 12:25 PM
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

AJ,

Scope is a 3-18x42mm IOR with reticle in the Second Focal Plane - tactical with illuminated reticle. Bummer... may have to place a Sightron SIII on there in the interim, but I'm not big on swapping scopes around once I've got'em up and running.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:34 PM
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

I have shot the monsterous 350 gr ULD RBBTs at 2700 fps in a 1-10 twist and they were amazingly accurate. THey are MUCH longer then the 265 gr HAT so I would suspect there will be no stabilization problems.

About the IOR, I have heard many stories about just what happened to you. In fact, I have heard enough that I will not recommend them on any rifle larger then 300 Win Mag when equiped with a muzzle brake. Without a brake, they seem to take pretty much anything you can throw at them but the negative G forces generated by the muzzle brake simply tears them apart.

Seems they do not have lens supports on both side of the lenses. To bad, they would be great scopes but if you use a muzzle brake on a high capacity magnum chambering, I would stay clear of the IORs.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:22 PM
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

Fifty,
now you tell us!

Just kidding.

Kirby that's good to know because in my own mind I would have recommended this brand even though I do not have one.
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

I do not want to give IOR alot of bad press but I do want to post my experience.

Please remember that I said that if your rifle does not have a muzzle brake, these scopes seem to be able to take pretty much anything you can throw at them. I have had them on my 338 Kahn, 338 AX and 338 AM heavy rifles without brakes.

I have also used them on rifles with smaller chamberings with and without muzzle brakes and they work great. Its just with the larger caliber, large capacity magnums that I would not use one on.

I really do like the IOR scopes. They are very clear, bright and crisp. I LOVE the MP-8 reticle as well. They could use a bit more vertical adjustment range and obviously something to be done so they can be used on higher intensity magnums.

Also remember that in the "real world" tactical means 308 winchester!!!!
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Re: 338 Edge - 265 HATs Muzzle Velocity

Thanks for the info, Kirby.
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