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Old 01-08-2009, 12:08 AM
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338-416 Rigby?

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:25 AM
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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

Wikipedia says that a 338 Lapua started out as a necked down 416 Rigby.

.338 Lapua Magnum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:05 AM
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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

That's funny. Shows what I know. I was thinking it'd be in the range of the Lapua improved. I just read the Nosler dope on the Lapua. It said the Rigby brass was too soft.

First time I've really looked at the 338's. With the bullets coming out from Berger, figured it might be time.

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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

Basically what the 338-416 Rigby is is an older version of the 338-378 Wby. Capacity wise they are nearly identical, the Wby just has a belt which some poo-poo on.

Worst thing with Wby brass is it tends to be a bit soft and its spendy as hell. The Rigby brass is even worse in both areas.

A 338 Lapua Improved will do anything the 338-416 Rigby will do even though its slightly smaller in capacity for the simple reason that the Lapua case will handle much higher chamber pressures then the Rigby or Wby case will handle. Plus, its extremely high quality brass and if you can believe it, its much cheaper then the Wby or Rigby case.

In my opinion, for the top performance level, I would not look any farther then the Lapua case either in standard factory form or improved form. If you want more performance then that, the next worthwhile step up would be going all the way to the 338-408 Chey Tac class wildcats.

Do not bother with going with the 338-416 Rigby.

Just my opinion.
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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

Thanks Kirby. What kind of cost difference are we talking between the Lapua and the Chey tac based rounds. Brass, dies, action, barrel life?

We'll have to have a more serious chat after the Dakota is done.
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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

Actual brass cost is pretty much the same, but I do charge more for fireforming of the big 408 case for componant cost and labor. In the end, you will pay around $2.5 for a Lapua case and then you need to fireform it, unless its a 338 AX.

For my 338 AM, they are right around $3.50 each fully formed with correct headstamp.

Dies are around $100 more for the 408 CT based wildcats simply because the FL sizing die needs to be a 1" diameter die. You will also need a press bushing adapter which most press manufacturers make for the 1" diameter dies.

Actions are nearly identical in price. In fact if you compare a repeating Lapua receiver to a single shot 408 receiver, the 408 receiver will be less because of the cost of mag box system on the repeater. Stocks are the same, barrels are within $50 of each other.

Chambering is a bit more for the big 408 based rounds, just more time involved.

Barrel life, I would say the 408 based rounds have about 1/2 the life as the same caliber rounds based on the Lapua. No free ride for performance.....
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Re: 338-416 Rigby?

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Thanks Kirby. What kind of cost difference are we talking between the Lapua and the Chey tac based rounds. Brass, dies, action, barrel life?

We'll have to have a more serious chat after the Dakota is done.


A 338 Lapua firing the 300 grain SMK is a very impressive long range combo.. Seeing is believing..
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