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.308 Winchester range?

What is an acceptable range for shooting the .308 winchester accuratly with a 168 grain bullet? Thanks
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    Unread 04-03-2013, 11:56 AM
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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    1,000-1,250 yards with the right load, rifle, and shooter that can get it there. I mean, there have been snipers who have taken further shots than that, but I think 1,250 is pushing it for a .308...

    I certainly wouldn't try to kill anything larger than a deer @ 1,000 with it, personally. Deer are pretty thin-skinned and if you use a clean shoulder shot, you should be ok. With a good hot load you should be ok.

    My 168gr load is pushing right around 2,775 out the muzzle.
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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    I shoot 168's regularly up to 1000 and everything in between.

    Shooting them accurately? Well thatís up to you.

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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    600 yards for your average joe. However if you have a good understanding of external ballistics and wind deflection I'd say 1200. Extremely proficient shooters knowing exactly what the wind is doing and how fast it is moving, I'd say 1600 yards. Some will say 800-1000 because they are citing military publications that state the "max effective range" of the 7.62X51 NATO is 800(US Army) to 1000(USMC) I personally believe that the military is severly down playing the capablilties of this round. I'd prefer the 175 grain projectiles past 600 tho. The projectile is more than capable. But like stated above.... Are you? At those distances the slightest shooter error will be magnified.
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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    You might need a rather special scope for some of those ranges too...

    With a 200 yard zero and 168gr boat tail bullet, you need to dial
    up 37.6 min for 1000 yards 5mph cross wind = 5.1min wind hold
    55.1 min for 1200 yards 5mph cross wind = 6.9min wind hold
    76.8 min for 1400 yards 5mph cross wind = 8.3min wind hold
    102.7 min for 1600 yards 5mph cross wind = 9.6min wind hold

    Deduct 20 min off those if using a 20 minute rail, that is still more than 80min of "spare" elevation needed. That is quite a scope !

    Energy level is approaching 22LR levels past 1000 yards too.

    A 243 AI shooting 105gr Bergers is considerably flatter shooting and has similar energy beyond 1000 yards. Hopefully your just shooting at paper, steel or varmints ?
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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    Also, if you handload, or even if you don't, and you have an iPhone....I highly recommend the BulletDrop+ app. I use it, and it works great for me.
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    Re: .308 Winchester range?

    If your shooting targets then energy means nothing. If your shooting a 308 win at game at anything past 600 then I'd say find a better caliber. However, energy doesn't translate into "killing power" Bullet placement and bullet selection are the deciding factors in killing game. Also for long range work a MIL RAD scope will make a huge difference. the 308 winchester isnt the end all be all caliber for long range shooting. There are many that are better. But if you are a beginner shooter the 308 will outshoot the shooter.
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