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Old 07-31-2010, 04:02 PM
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RiP:
1. Can't say I know much about that scope. But the magnification range is right where it should be for an all-around rifle.

2a. Those are nice rings although I am a fan of the Burris Signature Rings. They come with plastic inserts varying sizes so that you can cant (tilt) your scope without the need for a canted base. I also like the plastic inserts as they will not leave ring marks.

2b. Manners makes a great stock, but with a 56mm front objective, you will have the mount the scope pretty high. Without an adjustable cheekpiece you will have a hard time getting a good cheek weld. You might want to look at McMillan's. Several of their stocks have an adjustable cheekpiece option.

3. That's a wild lookin' bipod. As long as it works the way you want that's that matters. Personally, I use Harris Bipods.

4. As I said before, don't know much about DBM but that looks nice. I do like the lever on the trigger guard. Easily accessible without having to lift your head from the rifle.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:07 PM
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2b. Manners makes a great stock, but with a 56mm front objective, you will have the mount the scope pretty high. Without an adjustable cheekpiece you will have a hard time getting a good cheek weld. You might want to look at McMillan's. Several of their stocks have an adjustable cheekpiece option.
Manners has the same options, like this T4A.



http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...&Number=678640
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:54 PM
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Manners has the same options, like this T4A.



Manners T4A Picture Thread - Sniper's Hide Forums

Thanks for the correction.

Can you give Ripper some feedback on his DBM?
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:10 PM
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Hey gents,

Must start out by thanking those guiding me along and being patient with me.

With that being said I have been reading as much as I can in terms of accuracy with barrels be concerned. It seems the last part of your accuracy is determined with your barrel and obviously the crown. I read this at the Hart barrel webby:

Where possible, we suggest using as heavy a barrel as is feasible, for it is an established fact that heavier barrels produce better accuracy, especially over longer courses of fire.

It makes sense to me... Heavier rifle, heavier up in the front, less recoil etc?

Seeing that going with a heavy bull barrel would be a little to much what would be a good contour to go with that's going to allow as much accuracy as possible? I have had good groups in the past with the M40A3 but i'm thinking about going a little bit heavier as my goal is 1 hole at 200 yds. "It's going to take good ammo, rifle and shooter and it's only a goal".

Also; does anyone have any input on what company to go with for what I am looking for? Reading in to Hart, Shilen, Lija, Krieger, Douglas, Broughton, orbormeyer amongst other's all sound like they make top of the line barrel's and have decades of history to back their product. I couldn't guess what the deciding factor/s would be in choosing with what company seeing how they are all similar in price.

I really like how the barrel countour below is even nearly all the way down the entire barrel.





Lastly; to touch on the scope issue. Is there anything I can do to preven ring to scope contact so that the rings are not damaging the finish on the scope?

As much advice as possible is still at request here
Thank you very much once again.
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Can you give Ripper some feedback on his DBM?
No, I went with Seekins stuff. I liked the AR-style mag release. But as I'm sure you know and Ripper knows or will find out, Badger has fans far and wide, and it's not because they build crap. I'm sure he won't be disappointed with the M5.
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Also; does anyone have any input on what company to go with for what I am looking for?
I would - and did - let my gunsmith decide. He probably has one or two companies he prefers to deal with, and his reputation is built on making good choices of suppliers. You're not going to notice a difference between top-of-the-line barrel makers, so don't burden yourself with that choice so much.

As for contour, have you defined your goal weight? That'll help you a lot in determining what barrel profile you want. I wanted my 260 barrel to be thick enough to handle some strings of fire, like a local sniper match might set up, and still be light enough to carry. I ended up with a 22" Brux #5 and I'm very happy. I'll see how it carries this winter.

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Lastly; to touch on the scope issue. Is there anything I can do to preven ring to scope contact so that the rings are not damaging the finish on the scope?
Short of the Burris inserts, your rings have to touch your scope. Properly fit rings won't mar your scope. Some guys like to use black electrical tape to minimize the risk of ring marks. I've never felt the need. I try to keep my rifles and all my stuff in top condition, but in the end, it's a tool.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:56 AM
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No, I went with Seekins stuff. I liked the AR-style mag release. But as I'm sure you know and Ripper knows or will find out, Badger has fans far and wide, and it's not because they build crap. I'm sure he won't be disappointed with the M5.

I would - and did - let my gunsmith decide. He probably has one or two companies he prefers to deal with, and his reputation is built on making good choices of suppliers. You're not going to notice a difference between top-of-the-line barrel makers, so don't burden yourself with that choice so much.

As for contour, have you defined your goal weight? That'll help you a lot in determining what barrel profile you want. I wanted my 260 barrel to be thick enough to handle some strings of fire, like a local sniper match might set up, and still be light enough to carry. I ended up with a 22" Brux #5 and I'm very happy. I'll see how it carries this winter.


Short of the Burris inserts, your rings have to touch your scope. Properly fit rings won't mar your scope. Some guys like to use black electrical tape to minimize the risk of ring marks. I've never felt the need. I try to keep my rifles and all my stuff in top condition, but in the end, it's a tool.

Yes indeed, it is a tool. I have a tendeny to over baby my equipment. A infantry soldier to; try and imagine that. I had a soldier in my platoon leave his weapon with a brand new leupold scope laying on its side letting the scope get all scratched up and banged up. Long story short I blew up on him others thought I was out of line. Maybe I was but I saw him walk past it many a time and failed to correct it. His iPOD seemed more important to him and it made me mad. Of course "atleast in the Army" soldier's get away with a lot more than they use to.

I do not have a goal weight but being heavy is of no issue for me at all. I'm wanting to pick out a heavier contour. At the same time this rifle isn't a 25mm so to big just wouldn't make any sense. Well I better get on the ball here with this. Would a smith have a problem with me sending him the barrel already complete?

How is A.J Browns work? I have only read a couple people talk about him but their comments were that he does good work at affordable prices. If anyone has a good smith in mind for me that would be great. I am ever so slightly worried about choosing my next smith because my last one did me in pretty good... I had to assist the round 25% of the time becaues it wasn't feeding properly. I was pretty upset about that considering I pad $1000's to wait for 13 months to get a product I least expected to not chamber.

Thanks gentlemen; I really appreciate it.
Hoooah!
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:35 AM
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RiP:
I'll get back to your earlier post and respond line by line later when I have a bit more time. For now, I wanted to chime in with a gunsmith recommendation....

Kevin Cram at Montour County Rifles

Montour County Rifles

He did the accurizing job on my nephew's rifle and he just completed my 260. Kevin does great work. Check for posts from him in the Gun Photo section (screen name Kevin Cram). He often posts pics and specs of his work there.
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