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>308 Barrel Length

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Unread 02-03-2010, 09:16 AM
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>308 Barrel Length

I am considering a .308 Winchester for informal target and bench rest shooting.Everything else being equal-does a 20" bbl offer better (generally speaking) accuracy over a 24/26" bbl?? Any advantage of a barrel with 5R rifling?? Any advantages with cut rifling over button rifling. Thanks for help. Erod

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Unread 02-03-2010, 09:59 AM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

If you are looking for a light weight rifle the 20" barrel will be fine. But for targets
out to 600 to a 1000 yards. a 26" heavy barrel will do better.(Some where around
a Sendero taper or heaver).

The 308 can use the extra velocity with the bigger bullets (168+grs) and a 26 to 28"
barrel will work best.

As to the barrel type and rifling , Any good custom barrel will work, and rifling (Cut or button
with 3,4,5,6 and 8 grooves ) will shoot great as long as the smith does his part,

6 and 8 grooves are normally preferred for target bullets because of jacket thickness but
the others will work.

I hope this helps.

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Unread 02-03-2010, 11:16 AM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

I totally agree with JE on this one.

26"+ may not be the best choice for benchrest competition but is for 600-1000 yard match shooting.

I have seen BR quality accuracy out of all my 26" 308 barrels. None have offered BR accuracy with my hunting loads every day but then again, they were developed with high BC bullets at max velocity potential utilizing hunting weight rifles. BR accuracy being .150 or better.

With different bullets and lower velocities and more tedious loading tecniques while utilizing a heavier platform, I am pretty sure I could have seen .15 MOA groups more often than not with any of my 308's other than 1 wby I had which was turd.
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
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Unread 02-05-2010, 07:30 AM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

I'm not convinced barrel length has much to do with accuracy for the .308 Win. As long as it's long enough to get small velocity spreads for the powder used and long enough to get the bullet out fast enough for the rifling twist rate to stabilize it properly, great accuracy will prevail.

One issue with groove count as seen by top competitive shooters using wide ranges of bullet weights. Lighter bullets, such as 135 to 155 grains, tend to shoot more accurate from 4 groove barrels than 5 or 6 grooved ones. Why? I've no idea. Bullets heavier than 160 grains seem to shoot well in any groove count.
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Unread 02-05-2010, 07:28 PM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

You did not say what type of target shooting you will be doing. A longer barrel may not be more accurate than a shorter barrel, but if your target shooting will include offhand shooting, a longer barrel may be easier to hold steadier than a shorter barrel. My suggestion would be to go to a shooting range and see what equipment they are using for the type of shooting you are interested in. Ask them questions about their equipment and why they are using that type of equipment. Most shooters are happy to talk about their shooting and their equipment. When you do get your rifle, you will probably be shooting alongside these very same shooter. Good luck and have fun.
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Unread 02-06-2010, 05:40 AM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

I shoot a 20" barreled .308 TM700 Tactical. This is my goat culling/ dog tucker rifle and light recoiling back up rifle for hunting clients as an alternative to the 7mm Magnums.

Pro's of the 20" barrel.
Achieves 2840fps with 150 grain bullets.
Achieves 2660fps with 168 grain bullets.
Achieves between .250 and .4" groups at 100 yards with full power loads.

Loss of sight picture during recoil.
Upper end of recoil for newbies with full power loads.
I find the recoil acceptable but feel there is no need for it when a 24"-26" barrel would tame it right down.
Would be nice to get the 168 grain bullets shooting 140fps faster from a 24" barrel or 200fps faster from a 26" barrel (using Varget rather than the faster powders which work well in the 20" barrel).

For target work, if I wanted to stick with a 20" barrel, I would perhaps adopt a suppressor to dampen recoil.
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Unread 02-09-2010, 11:25 AM
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Re: >308 Barrel Length

I'm with Brimiy here. Need to know what sort of target shooting you're doing with this one to give you good advice. If you're into Palma shooting, a 29"-30" is pretty much required to get the velocity you need to stay supersonic @ 1,000 with a 155 grain bullet. If you're shooting across the course, a 26" barrel should be about right. The offhand and rapids dictate that balance be taken into consideration, and this is pretty much the norm among most shooters. Using a 26" barrel at 1,000 isn't a problem as long as you are using 190s or 200s (not an option for the Palma mentioned earlier), so yes, the type of shooting makes a huge difference.

Someone suggested that you go spend some time on the range with folks who are shooting they sort of competition you want to engage in. That's great advice. I'm sure most will be more than happy to tell you their likes and dislikes, and you'll be able to make a much more informed decision.

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