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Old 11-28-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

I have both. If there was a choice to have just one it would be the 300 win mag. Probably because I can shoot the 300 win mag all day without a muzzle brake in a carry weight rifle and it will do all that needs to be done.

Shooting at the longer distances past 600 yards takes years of paying dues laying groundwork at 100, 200 and 300 yards working your way through precision handloading, load development, scopes, shooting techniques, wind doping, rifle beddings, etc. Many times it is 2 steps forward one step back. The RUM's are high maintenance and not pleasant to shoot.

The 338RUM I have is a custom rebarrel with a Brux #5 contour with barrel porting and 2 recoil suppressors in the butt of the stock and it still kicks like hell. Anytime you are shooting a 225 gr bullet at 3100 fps and using over 90 grains of powder you have a monster in your hands. It weighs about 10 pounds all geared up and it is a bad boy to tote around the mountains even though I did last month on an Elk hunt (didn't get a shot).

The last Elk I shot was with a 300 win mag 180 gr TSX at 253 yards and it did an admirable job. It will become your friend and the 338RUM will become work. You will need a muzzle brake of some kind or carry a 12 pound rifle unless you enjoy punishment.

The 300 win mag will be cheaper on dies, brass and powder and it is easy to load for. Again, doesn't need a brake. This will do all you need


and this will do more than you ever need


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Old 11-30-2009, 02:13 AM
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

Have you thought of a 308 or an old fashioned 30-06 for a light duty close quarters rifle? As in out to 4 or 500 yds? To bad you moved that Tikka down the road. I learned long ago, every 1/2 moa rifle I own get's a life membership to my vault. You are now (or about to) learn that lesson too.

You should have sent the scope down the road and put one on that Tikka with turrets if that is what you were looking for.

My most recent LR scope purchase was a NIKON Monarch-X 30mm 4-16x50mm MD scope. I am getting along with it very well, I was a little paranoid about knocking the exposed turrets out of alignment/zero. But that proved to be of no concern. But I while continue to be vigilent and careful.

You are on an interesting track with that Savage action preference. They are reported to be very easy for an ameture to swap a barrel. Have you given any thought to locking in on a long action rifle build and picking up a pair of bolts? One with a standard cartridge bolt face (308 & etc) and a 2nd bolt with a magnum cartridge bolt face (300Win & etc). I know this sounds a little "unconventional" but there is a measure of flexibility in building with this way.

FWIW, I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 270 Win, it has a simple 2-7x33mm VXI scope on it and it shoots under 1/2 moa. I would never hessitate to take a deer sized animal down out to 650 yds (or so) with it. Bottom line you do not need a cannon to put a deer or an antelope on the ground. I like a minimum of 1000 ft/lbs for deer - 1600 ft/lbs for elk.

You need a rifle that you have trained with and know it inside and out. For beginners I like to have them dry fire once, prior to taking "the shot". I want them to see the site picture as the hammer drops, if it is wobbly or unsteady they can adjust and try again. It builds their confidence and results in a much higher 1st shot hit factor.

Keep us posted on what you decide and how it works out for you.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:51 AM
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

Go with the 300 WM for now.
As WOODS said" it will become your friend "
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:48 AM
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

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Go with the 300 WM for now.
As WOODS said" it will become your friend "


+1......

As to the advice of the 225 TSX bullet in the 338 RUM. The 225 TSX is an excellent general hunting bullet, but the OP mentined 1200 yards and this is not the bullet for that type of distance, the 300 SMK is with it's .768 BC it is a real hammer at long range
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:14 PM
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

I would have both the 300win and the 338RUM, buy a Savage Model 110FCP-K, it will get you out to a good distance and it will be great to practice with and when your 1000+yrd capable with the 300win on target then screw on a 338RUM barrel to take you to the next level.
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Re: 300 Win for a beginner or RUM?

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Go with the 300 WM for now.
As WOODS said" it will become your friend "
4th point
+1 on the 300wm. Once you get comfortable with the 300 wm at very long range you can upgrade your rifle to a 338 edge. That is what I am going to do with my savage 300 wm. My 2 cents only.

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