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Unread 01-03-2008, 07:06 PM
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You need a second gun

Sounds to me like you need two rifles. Sure you'd like one gun for everything. But an 8 lb rifle with 22 inch barrel doesn't make a good long range elk gun no matter what you chamber it in. You have what you need for most of your hunting. Buy a real long range rig for that once a yr trip west. The 300 RUM will work but not with a 22 inch barrel. Might as well stick with what you have.
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Unread 01-03-2008, 07:47 PM
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You are right that the RUM is balistically superior period. But the rum really is at it's best with a longer barrel. I think you will loose a couple hundred fps by lopping off 4 inches. THe WSM or SAUM will loose a lower percentage than the bigger guns. Also, a factory sendero weighs over 8 pounds already, do you want a sporter, or a heavy long range hitter?

You can get a sporter to shoot awsome as long as you limit your shots, don't let the barrel heat.
I used to re-load but now I "hand-load".
-- Well, at least I try --
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Unread 01-04-2008, 08:04 AM
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After rereading this post from the start, I've changed my thoughts...
If you want a long range hitter then you should get a 300 RUM and use it for long range. And leave it at least 26" long. It really needs the longer barrel. You can use your current rifle for everything else and take the RUM for long range mulies and elk.
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Unread 01-04-2008, 07:44 PM
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Bull elk at 650? Yeah, you need a RUM. The barrel length you are looking at is a limiting factor though. 26 inches isn't too bad to pack around. I do. No bulls at 650, but an antelope at 703. My longest kill on a bull is 564 yards. mtmuley
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Unread 01-04-2008, 11:32 PM
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Rem model7

Hi I have a rem model7 in 7mmsaum it is awsome after bedding it shoots between 3/8" and 1/2" if I do my part. you could upgrade the stock but the Synthetic Stainless is what I have they have 22" barreles and the recoil is negligable. if you are stuck on 30 cal get one in 300 Rem SAUM it will do every thing you need. I made and fitted a break aswell and have shot it to 1000yds with 175gr 7mm MatchKings. The 7mm is probably better for ballistics than the 30 cal at longer ranges. for long range a better stock would be advised.

Cheers Bill
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Unread 01-06-2008, 12:20 AM
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I have a Model 7 300 SAUM. Remington is now chambering the WSM also in Model 7. I have been very curious about customizing my M7. The guys over at specialty Pistols are shooting pretty good with 16 - 18"barrels. Not sure about 1000 yd Elk though. It seems that I should be able to do just as well or better with 22" barrel. My question is do I need to put a heavier barrel on my M7 for that extra long range? I have only shot this rifle to 300 yds so far. I plan on Trying 600 yds at the range soon. --- YES You do give up some velocity on shorter barrels.
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