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Old 12-21-2009, 09:45 AM
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30-06

Hi Folks:

I was just wondering..how many here actually use a standard 30-06 for any long range hunting? If so..what loads/favorite bullets do you like for whitetail/muley/elk..at ranges from 100-700 yards..I picked up a nice little Remington 700 XHR last week and want to develope some loads for it..

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Mac
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:20 AM
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Re: 30-06

I've never done any long range with it, but the 168g ballistic silvertips downed 2 caribou (granted they were only around 100 yd) very quickly last year, and a doe this year out of my 308. My rifle always shot the factory ammo loaded with this better than anything else. Never reloaded for it, but I can't complain about the bullets performance out of factory ammo! Used them for my 30-06 before it got ruined, and now my 308. I heard that they won't stack up too well for elk, but I can say on caribou and deer they were deadly with lung/heart shots.
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:41 AM
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Re: 30-06

It all depends on how you define long range hunting (LRH). The 30-06 is a great "do all" round, but it has its limitations. The name of the game in LRH is pushing bullets with a high ballistic coefficient (BC) at high rates of speed. The reason for these requirements is wind, or to be more specific: the ability to buck the wind.

While there is a great selection of high BC bullets in 30 cal, the 30-06 just can't come close to the speed of the 300 magnums. Accordingly, wind will have more of an impact on the same bullet shot out of a 30-06 than it will out of a 300 RUM. For me, I would probably limit myself to shots at 700 yds. or less using 180-200 gr. bullets like the SMK or AB - but that is just me. Your own skills and ethics, coupled with current conditions when evaluating the shot, will determine just how far out you are willing to go.

BTW: My favorite 30-06 load is 60.5 gr. of H 4831 SC topped with a 180 gr. Nosler AB. In modern reloading manuals this is listed as a max load (but not in the older ones), so you need to work up to it while looking for signs of excessive pressure.
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:57 PM
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Re: 30-06

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I've never done any long range with it, but the 168g ballistic silvertips downed 2 caribou (granted they were only around 100 yd) very quickly last year, and a doe this year out of my 308. My rifle always shot the factory ammo loaded with this better than anything else. Never reloaded for it, but I can't complain about the bullets performance out of factory ammo! Used them for my 30-06 before it got ruined, and now my 308. I heard that they won't stack up too well for elk, but I can say on caribou and deer they were deadly with lung/heart shots.
Thanks..I've used the BST bullets before out of a 25-06 & 270..and while impressed with their accuracy..really hated the clean up of them..

Mac
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:11 PM
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It all depends on how you define long range hunting (LRH). The 30-06 is a great "do all" round, but it has its limitations. The name of the game in LRH is pushing bullets with a high ballistic coefficient (BC) at high rates of speed. The reason for these requirements is wind, or to be more specific: the ability to buck the wind.

While there is a great selection of high BC bullets in 30 cal, the 30-06 just can't come close to the speed of the 300 magnums. Accordingly, wind will have more of an impact on the same bullet shot out of a 30-06 than it will out of a 300 RUM. For me, I would probably limit myself to shots at 700 yds. or less using 180-200 gr. bullets like the SMK or AB - but that is just me. Your own skills and ethics, coupled with current conditions when evaluating the shot, will determine just how far out you are willing to go.

BTW: My favorite 30-06 load is 60.5 gr. of H 4831 SC topped with a 180 gr. Nosler AB. In modern reloading manuals this is listed as a max load (but not in the older ones), so you need to work up to it while looking for signs of excessive pressure.
I define LRH at 500 yards or greater..While I do know their are faster cartridges available for doing this type of hunting..I am mainly interested in maximizing the capabilities of the 30-06..and not any of the magnums..I need a load that will perform admirable from up close to my comfort zone of 600-700 yards..I am full aware of how the wind can effect a bullets accuracy and that is the reason I am seeking out those who use this cartridge at those yardages..and their preference in bullets/loads...and their performance on the game I intend to hunt.With as long as this round has been around..I figure many have used it in the past and or still today... in the present. Magnums do offer more at those extended ranges..but..I have no interest in them at the present. I have varied hunting terrain here in Missouri..and depending on the wind..can have shots as close as 100..and as far as 700 yards..on the same days hunt.When I get to hunt elsewhere for Mulies and elk..I intend on still using the 30-06..provided I can find a suitable load that will give me the performance on the game I am looking for and is accurate enough to ensure that if I do my part..a humane kill..

Thank You for your data..I will try it and see how well it does..

Mac
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:54 PM
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Re: 30-06

56.5g Varget, GS Custom HV bullet, @ 3230fps. This is out of a 22" barrel. Will perform nicely out to 700yrds.

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Old 12-21-2009, 08:55 PM
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Re: 30-06

I killed a nice six by seven bull elk last September with a 168 bullistic tip Granted it was only 100 yrds. Just yesterday I put 3 holes in paper 1/3 minuet group @ 300 yrds
1/2 grn under max recommended load 58.5 grns H 4350 168 nosler bullistic tip 215 fed primer 2808 fps
It was probably an accident.
I have used alot of bullets in this gun the bullistic tips seem to be as accurate as any. Barnes 180's were terrible in my gun the old fail safe 165's shoot good but I wouldn't hunt with them again act to much like a fmj
if you look at your charts this load has just under 900 ft pounds @ 900 yards moving about 1500 fps it will kill a deer with a well placed shot but you better know your gun well, to make a shot that long it will drop about 220" zeroed @ 200 that is @ 5000'
I forgot to mention the elk I killed I decided to use the 06 even though my brand new 270 amp custom built long range rifle sat in my truck guess I was just more comfortable in the trees @ close quarters with it
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