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3 brushes, 280 patches, still getting blue?

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Unread 07-30-2007, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: El Campo, Tx
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I seldom use a brush and prefer to clean with a patch and solvent only. I use a combo of wipe out and butches on my 300 RUM Sendero. I apply wipe out and let it sit for 10 minutes then patch it out. I follow with a wet patch of Butches and let set for 2 minutes, follow this by another patch of butches pushed down the barrel and back twice. I repeat till it is clean. I use no more than 12-15 patches after shooting 20-25 pills. I believe like the others, the copper brush is breaking down , giving you the blues! Once you settle into your own technique, clean your barrel but don't scrub it to death.
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Unread 07-30-2007, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California
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Definately switch to a less agressive cleaner like Shooter's Choice/Kroil combo and see if problem resolves.

I also use a surefire light at the muzzle to check for fouling. The intensely white light make the copper fouling easy to see, especially if you park the rod and jag 2-3" from the muzzle and give light something to reflect off.
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Unread 08-02-2007, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central Washington
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I've tried the patch only method, and I'm not sure what you guys are using that can get it clean with only patches, but I can't do it with just patches.

I clean and clean until I get clean patches. Then I run a brush through several times, and my next patches are BLACK!

How can you be getting them clean with just patches?


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Unread 08-02-2007, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Memphis, TN. Soon to be Casper, WY.
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I have a rifle that with a barrel that after 3 shots has copper streaks almost hanging out the muzzle. I found that using Wipe-Out and the accelerator if I just let it sit over night it takes out everything. There is no copper, no powder fouling and no carbon left to see. I don't have a borescope but if I run anything else through the tube I get no results. So I think it's clean.
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Unread 08-03-2007, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Mississippi Delta
Posts: 161
There's some good info about borecleaning at this link:

I prefer Montana Extreme 50BMG for copper fouling, but use Wipeout also.

I agree with most here that the blue color on the patches was almost certainly a result of using the bronze brush.
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