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280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

 
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:30 PM
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280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

I'm headed to MT for an extend hunt for Elk and Mulies on a large ranch (80K+ acres) west of Yellow Stone on the Upper Ruby River. I need a hunting rifle, as I shoot my pistols and and AR most of the time just for the fun of ringing steel and making lots of holes close together - this will be the hunting gun to help with my bucket list . . .

So I've read 'til I'm numb (maybe even dumb), talked to lots helpful folks and have settled on the 7MM caliber: My top 3 cartridges in current order of preference are 280 AI, 7MM WSM and the old standard 30-06 if I can't find a rifle I want to own in the caliber I prefer (7MM) at a cost I'm willing to pay.

I'm not wishing to start a caliber/cartridge debate - they are all deadly and can reach out to 350-500 yds (not untypical shooting ranges where I'll be hunting). My favorite bullet for the 280 AI is the 150gr Accubond. Does anyone load this bullet at 3050-3150 fps? The Nosler factory cartridge is at 2950 fps , and there isn't much difference by loading up to 3100-3150 and I get that. But that increase would help with wind drift, drop and energy in the 400+ range a bit, and I'm told to expect it to be windy in November. At ranges below ≤350 yds, I'm totally OK with each cartridge.

In the 7MM WSM I really like the 168 gr bullet at close to 3000 fps.

Rachel
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:55 PM
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Re: 280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

I shoot a 280 Remington and 140 grain accubonds @ 3095fps. Killed 3 muleys from 100yds to 650 and 2 bulls from 70 yds to 150 and all were dead within seconds. Im talkin like 2 to 3 seconds. I would say go for the 280 or 280AI.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:30 PM
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Re: 280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

I have a 280Ai I shoot Nosler 150GR ABLR in my Kimber Montana 3000F/S .5 inch at 100 yards ,and I would not even hesitate on shooting these bullets in the wind. I don't think you are going to notice enough difference at 400yards in any aspect by jumping up 50-100 F/S if you were shooting 1000yards then maybe .
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:33 PM
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Re: 280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

One question...Are these all rifles you currently own, or are you wanting to build a rifle in one of those calibers?

The reason I ask, is because out to 500 yards max, you would be ok with even a small 7mm-08. It won't be quite as fast as the 280 AI, but a good caliber none-the-less.

I love the .280 AI, and plan on building one very soon. As a matter of fact, I am picking up my donor Rem 700 rifle for that project this weekend.

If I were to be shooting the .280 AI at game, and want great wind bucking abilities and still be fast enough to hit hard, I'd look into the Berger 168 VLD bullets and IMR 7828 SSC powder.
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I shoot a 280 Remington and 140 grain accubonds @ 3095fps. Killed 3 muleys from 100yds to 650 and 2 bulls from 70 yds to 150 and all were dead within seconds. Im talkin like 2 to 3 seconds. I would say go for the 280 or 280AI.
Hi Chad: Thanks for the input. I'm inclined to go 280 or 280 AI . . . Rachel
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:41 AM
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I have a 280Ai I shoot Nosler 150GR ABLR in my Kimber Montana 3000F/S .5 inch at 100 yards ,and I would not even hesitate on shooting these bullets in the wind. I don't think you are going to notice enough difference at 400yards in any aspect by jumping up 50-100 F/S if you were shooting 1000yards then maybe .
Your assessment agrees with the ballistics calculator. I really like the 150 ABLR with its BC > .6. Perhaps I'm just weary minded from all the reading - I just want to get a nice rifle and shoot the darned thin 4-500 times before November. I've had a love affair with the 280 AI since I was young lady who had a custom 300 H&H Mannlicher as her first real rifle, which I sold a few years later as life occurred. Never got back around to the 280 AI - career, family, community. But I'm doing what needs to be done now and thus my note.

Thanks for the input - it's really appreciated.

Rachel

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Old 03-05-2014, 12:45 AM
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Re: 280 AI . . . thoughts and decison making

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I'm headed to MT for an extend hunt for Elk and Mulies on a large ranch (80K+ acres) west of Yellow Stone on the Upper Ruby River. I need a hunting rifle, as I shoot my pistols and and AR most of the time just for the fun of ringing steel and making lots of holes close together - this will be the hunting gun to help with my bucket list . . .

So I've read 'til I'm numb (maybe even dumb), talked to lots helpful folks and have settled on the 7MM caliber: My top 3 cartridges in current order of preference are 280 AI, 7MM WSM and the old standard 30-06 if I can't find a rifle I want to own in the caliber I prefer (7MM) at a cost I'm willing to pay.

I'm not wishing to start a caliber/cartridge debate - they are all deadly and can reach out to 350-500 yds (not untypical shooting ranges where I'll be hunting). My favorite bullet for the 280 AI is the 150gr Accubond. Does anyone load this bullet at 3050-3150 fps? The Nosler factory cartridge is at 2950 fps , and there isn't much difference by loading up to 3100-3150 and I get that. But that increase would help with wind drift, drop and energy in the 400+ range a bit, and I'm told to expect it to be windy in November. At ranges below ≤350 yds, I'm totally OK with each cartridge.

In the 7MM WSM I really like the 168 gr bullet at close to 3000 fps.

Rachel
I notice you haven't stated the price you are willing to pay. That may have a large impact on what you choose to go with, especially if you are looking at off-the-shelf rifles. If you are planning a build, you are already well behind schedule.
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