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270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

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Unread 02-20-2005, 11:27 PM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

Your experience/wisdom is well taken.I appreciate your input to my of the great things about this forum is all of this experience from which to draw. Thanks again Ric! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Unread 02-21-2005, 06:11 AM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

no problem.... glad to help...
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Unread 02-22-2005, 12:53 AM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

I've seen plenty of elk killed with the .270. You just have to make a good shot. (which should be every hunter's goal)
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Unread 02-22-2005, 10:56 AM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

Just like when i showed up for the Buffalo hunt with my .277 The park rangers wanted a 300 mag at least and most of the guys actually had .338 and 375's.

They were skeptical of a 270. But they must have thought that I know something because I explained these 140's would go through 1/2 inch of steel at 200 yards and no 30's or 338 win mags had ever punched holes clear through at our local silhouette - In fairness to the 30 & 338's people were using heavier bullets like the 180-200 30's and 250 & 275 gr 338s So maybe lighter high speed rounds would make it through instead of just big impact craters.

270 Ackley Improved with 29 inch barrel and the 140 boat tails @ 3280 fps 1500 lbs about 45 degrees facing to me. 185 yards or so and below me. Studied the anotomy so it was the best shot to go through the shoulder blade and get the bullet to expand before going through the heart and lung area. The park rangers explained that they wanted head shots for instant kills. I shot first out of 8 of us and it fell over dead. they made the assumption that it must have been a head shot. I didn't want to tear it's head up because it was going to be mounted. Some of the big gun guys had them running all over wounded and the rangers had to shoot them several times.

The 270 wsm with fast 140-150's can take out elk at reasonable ranges.

I think all hunters need to use bow hunter skills. I got my first Elk from about 50 yards away and it was looking at me. I'm pretty sure that a 270 causes a bigger wound channel than a broad head
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Unread 02-23-2005, 12:37 AM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

First, I will admit that I am not a belted case fan.

I have seen several elk killed with a standard 270 Win, and even a few with a 2506 or 243. These were the rocky mountain variety and ranges were under 400 yards.

Were I to chose one of these it would be the 270 WSM. But I also agree with the statement about a bigger bullet selection for the 284. I would seriously consider the 7mm WSM. Were I to go bigger I think I would go with a 7mm Dakota, although brass is not cheap.

To beat a dead horse, bullet placement is key. If you shoot a hind leg off with a 338 or a 243, the result will be the same. Also, if you are recoil concious, like I am, and many people are and will not admit, then a smaller rifle that you can shoot well is better than a cannon that makes you flinch. Just my thoughts. Honostly, this class of calibers (WSM and especially the Dakota) is about all I want to shoot in a sporter weight rifle without some sort of brake.

Just one more opinion for ya.
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Unread 02-23-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

270 .. in my opinion is too light... the buffalo scenerio is good.. but you had optimum conditions.. time... not out of breath....etc....I wonder the results if you would have hit that shoulder blade...
I do agree bow hunting helps you "think" through a shot..
not all hunting situations are like that....

if you are a very adept marksman light calibers are fine.. but there are numerous situations when a little more power helps...

studies have proven that to effecivly kill and animal you need 8" X 1/2" dia wound channel.... this is typically enough to kill the animal... I suspect it is subject to a shot in the vitals...

as always shot placement is key... and you can "over power" and much as "under power"

I keep recalling the 7mm Rem mag. the Rem Core lokt bullet/partion type... that zipped right though a mulie...

high speed bullets are deflected easy....

reflecting back on the antelope hunt this fall... my buddy shoots at an antelope at 600 yards... he is shooting a 300RUM with handloads I made for him... the bullet is a 200 gr accubond... and they are screaming .... I set up a load for 1K plus shots...
he hit the antelope in the chest... bullets hits a rib.. and does a hard right turn.... and literally gutted the antelope...

obviously personal preference play as part.. heavy recoiling calibers can be tammed...
I am very recoil sensitive.. but I love to shoot the 300WM but it is breaked and I shoot it well...
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Unread 03-03-2005, 03:20 PM
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Re: 270 WSM or 7mm rem mag

Thanks for posting the question Tikka. I'm sorta in the same boat. I'm coming out of retirement and have 'clearance' for a new rifle. Contacted my hunting partner to chat ballistics. We hunted north of you in Northwest Ontario for moose and deer, he still does. He soon had the book out comparing 7mmMag and 270wsm velocities etc. He is currently shooting a 300WM for moose but wishes he had his 7mm back. Anyways, his feeling for buying new to use for both deer and moose is the 270wsm with partitions and accubonds providing the change up. I've got to investigate fit/recoil pads myself more though too.

let us know which way you go on this
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