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Old 08-02-2014, 10:56 PM
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Re: 257 Weatherby?

First things first.

A 25-06 will not meet or exceed a 257 Weather if both are loaded to the same pressures and barrel length. Its a physics thing. "Modern" components improve the 257 as much as they improve the 25-06.

Then on to the chambering, I have only heard good things unless there was something wrong with the rifle. I have mine but have not done anything with it yet.

Mud, the only Wby standard 6.5 is a vanguard but I bet the custom shop would make you one. Perhaps as an apology for sending you a lunar surface diorama for a barrel.
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First things first.

A 25-06 will not meet or exceed a 257 Weather if both are loaded to the same pressures and barrel length. Its a physics thing. "Modern" components improve the 257 as much as they improve the 25-06.

Then on to the chambering, I have only heard good things unless there was something wrong with the rifle. I have mine but have not done anything with it yet.

Mud, the only Wby standard 6.5 is a vanguard but I bet the custom shop would make you one. Perhaps as an apology for sending you a lunar surface diorama for a barrel.
I'm telling you, my .25-06 AI mimics my .257 Wby velocities... I gain nothing by lying or overexaggerating, so why would I?

Maybe they will.....I sure hope they do. I want a 6.5 Wby Mag so bad. Then I can open the chamber to my custom caliber specs.
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I'm telling you, my .25-06 AI mimics my .257 Wby velocities... I gain nothing by lying or overexaggerating, so why would I?

Maybe they will.....I sure hope they do. I want a 6.5 Wby Mag so bad. Then I can open the chamber to my custom caliber specs.
Put a pressure sensor on both and run em the same and the difference will show. Physics. Of course if it is that lunar crater barrel it could be misleading.
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Re: 257 Weatherby?

If you want a pure Weatherby in 6.5 just order up a Krieger cut rifled barrel in a number 5 with flutes. This is exactly what the custom shop uses. Then have your gun plumber put your special chamber in it.
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Re: 257 Weatherby?

ive got 2 of each a #1b 2506 26in, an sps 26 inch. A 257 cdl 26 inch and a vanguard 24 inch. My 24 in vanguard will easily outpace my 26 inch 06s by a 150 fps and the cdl will run 250 faster. Thats loading them all to the same pressure level. Im sure i could run the 2506s at the ragged edge of sanity and get more out of them but i can do the same with the weatherbys. Anyone that tells you theres nothing to be gained with a 257 over the 25-06 is either smoking crack or has never loaded for both. That said i would imagine the 2506imp is probably within a 100 fps of a 257 with the same barrel lenghts. Problem is up here anyway if i puch out a 2506 to improved I cant hardly give it away because nobody that isnt an avid handloader is going to touch it. I can get as good or better performance out of my 257s and actually sell one if the spirit moves me. Actually any one of the three rounds work well out to 400 yards on whitetail anyway. I might stretch that to 500 with a 257 but even doing crop damage the 500 yard shots dont present themselves that often.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:20 AM
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Re: 257 Weatherby?

I totally agree with Mudrunner. My 25-06 AI runs right along side with my friends 257 Weatherby. My load of 60 gr H1000 shows no pressure signs. I run the 115 Berger at 3350 fps. I have shot this load out to 700 yds and my drops are spot on using SHOOTER. I don't really know how to explain it better than Mudrunner did earlier. I believe there is a certain point where your gains are so small by increasing the case size. The 25-06AI seems to be a very efficient case. And like what was said earlier if the weatherby will out do a AI by 100 fps; it takes 10 gr more powder to do it.
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Old 08-05-2014, 04:58 AM
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Re: 257 Weatherby?

to me a 100 fps is a 100 fps. Powder cost is pretty minor. If you can afford a weatherby or a custom rifle in 2506ai you sure arent going to quibble about the cost of 10 grains of powder. the o6 beats out the 08 by about the same and the 250 savage is upped by the roberts by about the same and nobody claims that 100 or so fps isnt valuable there. I guess if im hunting where it doesnt matter then a normal 2506 will do just fine and if im hunting where every little advantage is real then i want the faster of the bunch. Im not saying the AI is a waste. It certianly a viable long range gun. But like i said i can at least recoup my money back out of a weatherby. Rechamber something like a rem 700 or a win 70 to AI and it makes it worth less then the gun originaly was worth. At least where i live. I guess everyone has there own thoughts on this and probably no one is wrong here.
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