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Old 09-23-2002, 07:38 PM
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Re: .244 Ackley and 1000 yards

Jerry, thanks for the info on the mounts. I'll look up their site. As far as the 105 A-Max, I have some on the bench as we speak. They look like a VLD with a poly tip.
I called the smith that built these guns and he said that a 1/10 in my 06 would only be good for up to 185 gr bullets, but I may get away shooting 200 gr slugs. He builds 6.5-06 Improved to shoot 1000 at a friends place just South of here. He said the cartridge of choice is a .375 H&H Improved or something like that with a very long barrel 33 to 35 inches. Well that tells me right off the bat that I'm under gunned. But when I had these weapons built, 1000 yds wasn't even a thought. But rather hunting rifles and no more. I guess if I want to shoot long, I need a speciality gun built to do just that.

BH, I may have 30 inches. SB has also suggested that I could hold over if I had to. I have a Burris catalog and these rings are pictured. This may work. I have heard that if your scope is dialed to the max in any direction, it will effect the optical clairity. I can see where this could be true. Glass does funny things when pushed to the limit.
Earlier you ask where I'm at. I'm in Rio, IL.
It is pronunced Rye-oh as SB has so said. This guy is a real clown, and a good shot. I have heard that his first round at this years shoot at Camp Perry was a perfect 100! He's a nice guy too.
I have seen the thread on the Pella, IA shoot the 5th. I'd like to go, but I may be tied up that weekend.

Any more advice would be helpful.

Tim
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Old 09-23-2002, 11:27 PM
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Re: .244 Ackley and 1000 yards

Tim,

These guys should believe nothing you said about me...other than the 'clown' part [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] They might get the idea I really am a nice guy or something. THAT would ruin my reputation at work! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] As far as shooting ability, well, that's up in the air too... [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

I'll E-mail some stuff direct @ bullet makers that may help. Above all - GO TO THE SHOOT & GIVE IT A TRY!!!!!!!!!!! I'm firmly convinced you'll surprise yourself. The 200 yard sight-in prior to the match will, in all likelihood, get you on paper quickly. They're SUPER friendly & helpful up there.

Hold hard,

'Speedbump'
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Old 09-23-2002, 11:59 PM
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Re: .244 Ackley and 1000 yards

Tim,

Sounds like you have a real good shooter there. There has been strong interest in the 6mm for long range target shooting. Refer to precision shooter back issues. The 243 has again become quite popular. The benefits: less recoil, less expensive bullets, "cheaper" to shoot. Downsides: lower BC, possibly more wind drift.

Some are going to improved 250 savage cases with long necks. This has helped them reduce throat erosion. The 3000fps seems to be a good vel for the VLD type bullets.

As with anything, practise is going to make or break your shooting. Remember that there are many that shoot 308 Win and 155 to 175gr in F class. The 6mm ballistics are much better.

Have fun, learn to read the conditions, and watch your form. These are what will separate the winners and also rans.

Good luck...

Jerry
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Old 09-24-2002, 04:24 AM
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SB, ok, you're the baddest of the bad, the nastiest of the nasty, the Mad Max of Southern Illinois....how's that? I don't think I'll ever venture south of Bloomington...it ain't safe with you on the road...I love you man...
Tim
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Old 09-24-2002, 09:57 AM
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Re: .244 Ackley and 1000 yards

Tim,

You may want to visit some of the 1000yd BR clubs (results and equipment are posted on their websites) and see what shooters are using. If you think the .244 Ackley is too small, remember that 1000yd events have been won with a 6BR. All you need is 2800 to 3000fps with a 105gr type bullet in a well built gun. The ballistics of larger calibres come at the cost of much higher recoil and barrel wear.

You gunsmith may want to do some research into 30cal twist rates because a 1 in 10 twist will stabilize bullets as heavy as 220gr MK, possibly 240gr MK.

The big case 1000yd cartridges are still used in heavy classes. Smaller calibres are used in the lighter weight classes. Review the results and the different specs. This will help you choose something that will work for your application.

With the new generation of VLD bullets, bigger is not necessarily better for target shooting. If this is for long range hunting, then magnum 30cals come into their own.

Good luck...
Jerry
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Old 09-24-2002, 09:58 AM
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Re: .244 Ackley and 1000 yards

Why Tim, you made me blush, sir! [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] Does your saint of a wife know????? [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

I e-mailed that bullet info you asked for direct. Enjoy!
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Old 09-24-2002, 02:22 PM
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Yeah, I think you guys are right, .244 will make the distance. And if the wind is not howling, will possibily do very well. I think I will have to invest in some tapered bases though. The Ken Farrell site is a good choice Jerry, thanks. I looked on Berger's site and found their .30 cal 210 gr VLD and they recommended a 1/11, so I think my 1/10 will work fine with the heavier bullets. I would think the 06 would be good if there was some wind to contend with. But I guess there is always wind to contend with at 1000 yds, it's your ability to judge when to squeeze the trigger, am I right?
The 7 that I have is a 9 1/4 according to Remington. What is the heaviest bullet I can shoot?
SB, I stand by what I said, and wipe that grin off your face!
The weather is beautiful this week, 70, Sunny and light winds. They're a pickin corn and beans to beat the band. With my luck, it'll probably snow Saturday. Can't hardly wait.
Tim
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