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Old 11-21-2009, 02:15 PM
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200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

I know the Berger is better at long range, but which one would be better if a shot happened to be at 100 yards or less ?

Loading them for my .300 Ultra Mag. I have the Retumbo and Federal 215's waiting.

I'm asking, because even though my Sendero weighs 10.6 lbs, I will probably still carry it around to my favorite hunting spots next weekend. Some of those places shots can be as little as 30-75 yards.
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:53 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

There is a lot of discussion and debate about this subject. The Berger seems to be a very effective bullet most of the time, but I've read some reports of non-expansion or little to no penetration due to under expansion. Another issue for me is bloodshot meat. I eat my game and butcher it myself. The VLD's tend to ruin a lot more meat from what I've read and heard. My philosophy is not to use them at close range if I use them at all.

Right now, my go to load is 180 E-tips with an MV of 3400 fps. At an elevation of 5000', the E-Tips get to just under 1100 yds with 1800 fps velocity which is their minimum expansion velocity. At 3150 fps the 210 Bergers get about 50 yds farther with a little more enrgy/momentum.

The E-Tips are shooting very well and I dont see a need to use the 210's for the more extreme ranges, because I dont see a big benefit. After recovering an E-Tip in the dirt from target shooting, I am very impressed with what I see. It will put a major hurting on what ever it hits.

Having said that, I do have some of the thick jacketed 210 VLD loaded and will give them a try at ranges inside 500 yds on a cow elk if I get the chance. This is based on the fact that the thick jacket VLDs tapper down in thickness to the meplat and should proved expansion. I am very interested in seeing their performance.

In the LR game, I look for well performing, relatively high BC bullets which include E-Tips and AB's.

Just my $.03

Mark
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:00 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

Oh yeah, I toted my Sendero & NXS around for about 16 miles yesterday
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:08 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

How do you get 3400 fps ? Geez thats smoking !

I use Accubonds in my 7mm RM and 338 WM, they work great !
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:12 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

I've seen 3400 with the 180 E-Tips with Retumbo, H1000 and RL17. That's a typical velocity for that weight bullet in the 300 RUM.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:13 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

My dad had a 210 Berger out of a 300WBY poke through a deer the other day just over 250yrds, it was back and didn't hit bone could not even tell there was a hole there till we got the hide down, I was ready to see a mess. I think if you hit bone they will torch them down or punch an elk with it's greater mass.
I'm loading both the Bergers and Accubond and pack both just in case the Berger fails the first shot.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: 200 Gameking vs 210 Berger

I would include 200gr Accubonds in this question, but they are sold out everywhere. I most definetly will be using the 200gr Accubond as my all around load for deer and maybe an Elk trip.

Would I be giving up much if I used the 180 Accubond ?
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