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1st production APS Raptor receiver is here!!!!

 
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:31 AM
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James Jones,

No need to sweep the shop, you could clean the lathe if you want to though!!!

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:39 AM
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BB,

That is a real concern and one I have encountered many times. I see a rail base as a moldable componant to the rifle. By that I mean, they are easy to machine to a specific customers needs.

When I get a rifle finished, and get ready to mount the scope as the customer wants, Many times as you mentioned the scope needs to be positioned farther or it would hit a long rail base. Another problem is that when you mount a big scope low on a rail, often times when the scope is set up for proper eye relief, the power adjustment ring will hit the last couple rail fins on the back of the rail base.

Easy cure for both, vice up the rail base, take off the first couple slots on the front of the rail for objective cone clearance and do the same on the rear. Just milling them down flush with the bottom of the rail slots offers all the clearance needed. Debur, throw in the blast cabinet and matte up and it looks like it came direct from the factory custom made for that rifle application. It its a blued rifle or coated rifle, the rail just gets teflon coated after milling.

Again, I machine the rails for each application, just want the extra meat there to allow more versitility for different applications is all.

You bring up very valid points however and points I have considered and have solutions for.

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:44 AM
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lerch,

Yes, this rifle will be coming down on the hunt for you guys to play with. It will be chambered in my 300 Allen Xpress chambering. I have a heavy fluted #8 Lilja in a 30" finish length with a 1-8 twist. Hope to play with Richards big 208 gr AT RBBTs but have to see if they will survive this barrel. I also have some 290 gr ULD RBBTs I will try as well.

Its going into a McMillan A-5 85% black 15% lt grey and I plan on teflon coating the entire rifle black. For a brake. I think I may machine something special for this rifle just to keep it as much mine as possible and maker he as comfortable to shoot as possible.

This will probably not be my primary rifle for the hunt. I am working on building a lightweight 6.5mm Allen Magnum for that purpose but if needed this one will certainly work.

That said, wouldn't a world record class Axis look nice in a promo add for the Raptor!!!! Maybe it will be come my primary rifle!!!!

Either way, you guys will get to play with it and give a review if you want. I won't even tell you what to say about it!!

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:47 AM
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GG,

Right now, looking at a $1200 price which will include the receiver, rail base and recoil lug as well as the trigger hanger assembly.

I have been thinking about doing a speical price deal for LRH members on a bulk order. Maybe drop prices down to $1100 if we can get 5 to 10 receivers to order.

Time frame. Once I get this receiver throwing bullets and find any minor bugs and get them worked out. I am told that once we finalize the design, I can have ordered shipped within 30 days of the order..........

Now we have all heard nice things like this befor so until it actually happens I am very cautiously optomistic about shipping times. I plan on having the design finalized within a couple weeks with range and field testing.

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:50 AM
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JWP475,

Nope, bolted on with 4, 8-40 tapered head bolts.

The additional cost of an integral rail base was not worth the cost in my opinion when considering the chamberings this receiver will be built in. None of them will surpass the limits of these mounting bolts when installed properly.

While its a great idea to do this, I wanted to shift my investment into areas that make much more difference to the accuracy standpoint in this receiver while keeping the overall cost of the receiver at a reasonable level which I believe it is for what you get, in fact I would say its a bargin.

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:52 AM
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Festus,

It actually took alot longer then I wanted. I was hoping to have the receiver in time to get it built up and used on my August elk hunt. Did not make that but its hear so I can not complain to much!!!

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Old 11-20-2007, 11:54 AM
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MagicofMT,

The 338 AM will not fit in this receiver but the 338 AX will!!!!

You need a 10 lb smaller version if your 338 AM anyway!!!

Good luck on your hunt, hope the 338 AM takes care of you and eats well!!!

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