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195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

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Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Berger 195 gr 7mm Bullets.
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    Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

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    Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Berger 195 gr 7mm Bullets.
    Pretty much how I feel about it...
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    Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

    I must be looking at something incorrectly on the calculator then?

    Twist Rate Stability Calculator


    Use this form to determine your gyroscopic stability factor (SG) based on the Miller Twist Rule

    Input Parameters
    Caliber .284
    Bullet Weight 195 Grains
    Bullet Length 1.5
    Barrel Twist 9 Inches/Turn
    Muzzle Velocity 3000
    Temperature 59
    Altitude 4500 Feet



    SG = 2.01

    Not saying that you will not need a 8.5 or 8 twist to stabilize, I am just asking.

    Is there any reason not to run that fast of a twist rate, i.e. would it make lighter bullets come apart easier at higher MV's due to the increased RPM's leaving the barrel?
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    I must be looking at something incorrectly on the calculator then?

    Twist Rate Stability Calculator


    Use this form to determine your gyroscopic stability factor (SG) based on the Miller Twist Rule

    Input Parameters
    Caliber .284
    Bullet Weight 195 Grains
    Bullet Length 1.5
    Barrel Twist 9 Inches/Turn
    Muzzle Velocity 3000
    Temperature 59
    Altitude 4500 Feet



    SG = 2.01

    Not saying that you will not need a 8.5 or 8 twist to stabilize, I am just asking.

    Is there any reason not to run that fast of a twist rate, i.e. would it make lighter bullets come apart easier at higher MV's due to the increased RPM's leaving the barrel?
    In your other post you said any altitude. To me, any altitude would include sea level.
    Using 4500 feet will make some difference. The other difference is, you are not using the correct bullet length. The correct length is 1.637".
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    Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

    Yea, I had to guess on length as I have not seen the actual length anywhere. I know that it will make a difference.
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    Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

    You may want to give the 190 gr Matrix a try.
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    Re: 195 grain 7mm Berger - How Much Cartridge Will it Need?

    7mm/26 Nosler!

    Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    IMHO a STW, WSM, Dakota, Allen, 7mm/375 Ruger or a 284/7mm/26 Nosler is probably where you want to go.

    I don't think a 284 Win or AI or a 280 Rem or AI will hunt the way you would want.
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