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Old 06-06-2006, 09:12 PM
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.17 rem 37 bergers?

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if my model 700 would be able to stablize these bullets. Berger says recommeded twist is 1:6 and my gun has a 1:9. And if so, does anyone have any data on these. The bc on this bullet is 0.348 which is way higher than any other bullet in this caliber. Thanks,
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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

Not a chance. Your stuck w/the light bullets in that one.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:25 AM
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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

Bill,
That is what I figured but I thought I would ask to make sure. Thanks again.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:14 AM
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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

Some factory Rem 700 will shoot up to the 30 gr FB bullets. Others will not. I have one that will not but it loves the 20 gr V-Max loaded to 4300 fps. Only problem is powder fouling is a real pain in this rifle so it is currently sitting in the shop waiting to be fitted with a 24" Lilja 1-12 chambered in 221 Fireball.

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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

jax338, The others are correct, and many (including I) have tried the 37 grain Berger, and found that a 1 in 9 will not stabilise it.

History shows that a 1 in 7 twist will stabilise and shoot it accurately, as long as the velocity is kept below about 3,450 fps. Push the velocity above 3,450 and groups open up and the bullet will often come apart.

Walt Berger in reply to my letter in 1997, advised that his 37 grain VLD were like the other Berger VLD bullets, and were designed to operate in the 3,000 - 3200 fps window where they gave best accuracy.

The REM 700 in 17 Rem usually has a 1 in 9 twist, and should stabilise bullets up to about 30 - 32 grains in weight. My suggested options to try would be: Hornady 25 grain Vmax (BC .235), Berger 30 grain HPBT (BC of about .230), and Todd Kindler's 30 grain VLD has a BC of about .270.

I don't want to be a doomsdayer, but from personal experience I believe that a good custom stainless barrel is necessary when using the .17 Remington or a larger wildcat case, as barrel fouling was excessive in the three factory 17 Remington barrels that I tried. Good luck with your .17 Rem. Brian.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:31 PM
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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

Thanks for all the help guys. Brian, right now I am shooting the v-max and they shoot and kill great but I saw the b.c. on the berger and got excited. I suspected it wouldn't work but I had to ask just in case. Again thanks for all of the help.
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Re: .17 rem 37 bergers?

as long as the velocity is kept below about 3,450 fps. Push the velocity above 3,450 and groups open up and the bullet will often come apart.

Walt Berger in reply to my letter in 1997, advised that his 37 grain VLD were like the other Berger VLD bullets, and were designed to operate in the 3,000 - 3200 fps window where they gave best accuracy.

is this true of all VLD BULLETS irrespective of caliber.
thanks
Colin
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