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Old 12-19-2006, 11:13 AM
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168\'s and LTR twist??????

Back a couple years ago, I put together a factory stock (except for lapping the brl and adj. the triger) Rem 700P with the 24" brl in .308win. This along with my handloads was the most accurate rifle I have ever owned! On a good day (me and the weather), it would shoot way better than I could shoot it! It would put 3 shots in one hole around .4 pretty darn consistantly at 100yrds! May not up to some you guys shooting, but sure was good for me!
Anyway.......due to a brain F*@t on my part, I no longer have this rifle. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] My question is this.....

1. what was the barrell twist on the older 24" 700P's in .308
2. would the newer LTR's in .308 work fine with my prefered pills? (168grn's)

I now have a place to shoot on my own property out to 500yrds and wanted to play with the medium/long range stuff again, but wanted a gun a little lighter in weight than the 700P/PS. I really like the looks of the LTR but have been told than the twist on them was wrong for the 168's? Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.........
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:37 PM
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

get a 12.
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:08 PM
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

I'm guessing you mean twist? If so.....thet LTR fits the bill? Thanks.......
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:35 PM
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

Anything from a 11.25 to a 13 twist works very well with the 168 SMK's 12-13 being the all around best. 12 will also handle the 190 SMK, 178 AMAX, 175 SMK and will still shoot the 155's well also. BR shooters use 14, but that is for 100 yards. Not sure how it would work at 600 yards.

The 700 PSS's use a 12 twist. So do the newer LTR's.

Hope that helps.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:08 PM
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

Thanks "meichele"! I was hoping to hear from you! We had several long discusions back a couple years ago when I put the above mentioned 700P together. As stated......I no longer have that gun and wanted to try something a bit different this time. I have been eyeing the LTR's ever since they were introduced but have never owned one. I figured this may be a good chance to give one a go?
Really want to put a rifle together for shooting here at my home range (out to 500yrds), but my hunting property does present shots out to 700-800 yards. I am a die-hard pistol hunter and dont see myself toteing the rifle much, but would like to have one just incase the mood strikes me?
Do you have any thoughts on the LTR out to 6-700 yards with the 168's? Before when you helped me on the 700P.....I kept the velocity down to around 2700fps per your advise. Is this still what you prefer with the 168's in a .308? Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you and anyone else that could share opinions?
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

Its good to have another conversation with you too!

My opinions on velocity of the 168 in 12x is somewhat the same. 2600-2800 is hard to beat. This is only my opinion though! I have used the 168 at 763 yards on a sheep and it din't open up though. Velocity was 2661. 4000' in 60 degree air. I dont use them much anymore due to that fact and also their uncanny ability to tumble after about 800-1000 yards depending on the air density at the time. The 178 AMAX has filled every one of my needs. It opens nice at low velocity, stays supersonic to 1K and is increadibly accurate. The 12 twist will still work fine for the 175 SMK and the 178. Not saying you should switch to them, just maybee give em a try.

Also, just out of curiosity, what appeals to you about the LTR over the PSS?
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: 168\'s and LTR twist??????

Well..........I've owned a couple P's, PSS's,VSSF and VS's, but never a LTR? I like the little bit shorter barrel and compactness I guess? What is the reasoning for keeping the velocity in the 2600-2800fps range and not pushing them a little harder? I'm sure you explained this to me in the past, but lost all our emails I had saved when my old laptop crashed? Thanks again........
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