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Old 06-15-2008, 08:19 PM
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150 Scirocco vs 160 accubond

In all the discussions about bullets and external and terminal ballistics i dont hear anyone talking about the scirocco. I have had pretty good luck with the 140 accubond in the 7 mm STW and i know a lot of you said the 160 accubond is the way to go but just curious has anyone tried the 150 scirocco?
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:10 PM
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150 Scirocco II

I've been using the 150 Scirocco IIs for several years out of my 7WSM and they're everything that they're supposed to be. I'm getting 3165 fps. Great accuracy, great expansion, and great weight retention and a very good BC. Last year I took (2) 6-point bulls with them, 1 at 750 yards and the other at about 100 yards. At 750 the bullet entered in front of the shoulder, passed through the chest cavity and was up against the hide on the far side. The bullet mushroomed nicely. At 100 yards, I put 3 of them through the chest cavity and they all burried in the hillside. Devastating wound channels. I don't understand why they're not more popular. People claim that they're pricey compared to Accubonds but a box of 50 Accubonds sells for about $23 and a box of 100 Sciroccos sells for about $53 so for the difference of about $7/100 or $0.07 ea I don't think that argument hold much water. If they shoot for you, I think you'll be happy with the flight ballistics and terminal performance.
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:45 PM
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Thanks for the info. I have great accuracy with teh 140 accubonds but had a failure in alberta and makes me nervous. I know the powder will obviously be different since i have the STW and you wsm but did you find they like to be real close to the lands or .02 or so? Sorry for the questions just trying to take as much guess work out of this as i can. My range time has dwindled.
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:41 PM
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RECOVERED SCIROCCOS


I like the 160 accubond better,. better BC and more accurate in my rifle.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:32 PM
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In all the discussions about bullets and external and terminal ballistics i dont hear anyone talking about the scirocco. I have had pretty good luck with the 140 accubond in the 7 mm STW and i know a lot of you said the 160 accubond is the way to go but just curious has anyone tried the 150 scirocco?
Point one is simply that Nosler makes outstanding products, they have been around much longer, and their bullets are just flat out accurate. But, Point Two: The Scirocco has a higher BC per same bullet weight, if I recall. The problem that haunts Swift Scirocco bullets is that they are pure lead/pure copper, thus it is a little more difficult to find the sweet spot in most rifles, IMO.

FWIW, I have used the 150 in my 7mag, with IMR 4350 with excellent accuracy. Also, I have used the 180 Scirocco in my 300 RUM with H1000, Retumbo, and Re25, all producing 3/4" groups or less.

I have killed 5 black bears now, with my 30.06 and the 180 Scirocco, 2 of which are on film. The closest one was 8 yards and it blew through both shoulders on a medium sized bear, at 260 pounds.

I've never been one who cares much about what a bullet looks like when I'm field dressing my kill. If I tag an animal, the bullet did it's job, so long as I hit where I was aiming. The Scirocco offers a nice combination of characteristics in a hunting bullet, in that it is bonded, has a good BC, is tough enough for bone, yet, opens up rapidly. I have yet to recover one Scirocco bullet, no matter the game, or distance. I intentionally aim for center mass of the scapula or slightly higher.

I was speaking with a tech man from "Best of the West" just yesterday and his primary bullet in his 300 RUM is the 190 VLD, and the 180 Scirocco is his secondary load. The Scirocco seems to be quite popular with the staff there, if that is meaningful to you.
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Thanks for the info. I have great accuracy with teh 140 accubonds but had a failure in alberta and makes me nervous.
I had a 140 grain .277 failure on a CO mulie in 2005 at 50 yards. Makes me nervous too.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:59 AM
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I think that the first Sciroccos were not bonded, but the Scirocco II are!

I shoot the accubonds but have not had any close range deer encounters with them where I was able to recover a bullet, just the deer

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