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Yet another "whats the best scope for me" thread.

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Unread 08-09-2008, 08:58 AM
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Yet another "whats the best scope for me" thread.

Wow, a real nice forum you fellows have here. I tried searching and reading threads but have not got quite the advice I want as of yet.

I have a nice new 270 WSM Savage 12FVSS 26" bbl stainless varmitter that I will use for large varmits of the whitetail variety. I hunt in western Kansas, where a lot of shots are 200-400 yards. I wounded a deer at 300 yards 2 years ago and my opinion is that it was as much failure of my gun as the operator -- never could get my 25-06 to shoot as well as it should have in spite of trigger work, bedding and my best hand load attempts. Anyhow.......

I am thinking in the 2-14 range, or maybe 4-16. The occassional 50 yard shot presents itself, so too much power is not wise either. A lot of shots happen at dusk and sunrise, so good light gathering is a must.

I figure to spend between 500 to 700 dollars but I could be talked into spending more or less.

I found a Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x 50mm with Varmit Hunter Reticule for under 600 at Midway. You think that is a wise choice? Decent deal?

I like the looks of the Varmit Hunter's Reticule. Opinions?

Sorry for all the newbie ???? Thanks in advance....
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Unread 08-09-2008, 11:23 AM
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If 400 yards is your maximum expected range then you have no need for the varmint reticle. The old tried and proven method of using a 300 yard zero will work just fine. For 400 yard shots you just hold on the top of the back and shoot. Its faster and simpler and cheaper.
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Unread 08-09-2008, 06:17 PM
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Shop around before you buy one from Midway or any other "big name" catalog. I've always found better prices online or at local gunshops.
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Unread 08-09-2008, 11:15 PM
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The Leupold will serve you well. Whether to get the VH reticle will in my opinion be based on how serious you get about long range hunting. While you may think that 400 yds is a long way now, it will become easy w/a little practice. I guess what I'm trying to say is the VH reticle may work fine for now but you may soon outgrow it. I'd advise you to get something w/turrets and learn to dial. Lood hard @ the Nikon Tactical and the Mark 4 Leupold. A little over the $ you listed but worth it.
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Unread 08-10-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: Yet another "whats the best scope for me" thread.

For deer varmints the 4.5x14 is perfect for all but extreme ranges -and the 4.5x won't ever be too much magnification.
If shooting at first and last light go w/a 50mm objective.

As stated once you start shooting out to 400yds -and reading/researching on this board you will soon outgrow the idea that 400yds is your max range.
Get a scope that has turrets as stated -talk to Bii/BJ who just commented before me -him and Lerch [partner] are very knowledgable w/longrange hunting and they have great prices on quality optics.

Go to biggameinfo dot com plug in your info and play around w/the ballistic software it will help you get started -it's free.
Best luck -Mike
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Unread 08-10-2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: Yet another "whats the best scope for me" thread.

OK, greatly appreciate the advice from you all and done lots more reading too.

I NEVER want to search for days for a wounded trophy animal again. I take a great deal of pride in hunting humanely and also never wasteing an animal. Without stirring up too much controversy amoung long range shooting fans, I would just say that the chances of wounding an animal begin to go up quickly as the range gets further. I'll stick to 400 yrds for deer.


I have a bit of survivalist bent as well, mostly of the "What if the SHTF" sort of thinking. I don't go around planning for doomsday. But perhaps having a weapon that could be called up to shoot a little further might not be a bad idea either. So with that additional logic here's what I think I need:

-- 50mm front objective, low light situations and old eyes.
-- 4 or 4.5 lowest power setting, for the obvious closer situations
-- 14-16 max magnification
-- Turret adjustable elevation/windage
-- 1" tube is OK, 30mm would be better but too much $$$$

Looking a good names, the best price I have found that fills that bill is a Zeiss 4.5-14x50mm Conquest MC. It states that it has "Hunting Turrets" and they look nicely ajustable. The Nikon Monarch X 4-16x looks nice as well for a little more. My gun is stainless, so the Zeiss has a edge there. But the Nikon is a better value in terms of the numbers.

What other scopes that fill the above bill might you all recomend? Really MUST be under $1000 The Zeiss is about $850

Last edited by cdherman; 08-10-2008 at 11:40 AM. Reason: more info
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Unread 08-11-2008, 12:01 AM
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I have a leupy VX III 4.5-14x40mm with a B&C reticle i willin 2 sell. ill sell it with the 4" lense shade, butler creek scope caps, an yellow lense filter for 520 shipped, wtb, i paid 650 for it all new. i no its not exactly wat ur looking for but its food 4 thought. it only been used 4 one season an its its in excellent condition. still have the box an everthing. well like i said food for thought

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