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Old 05-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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Will I loose my 100 yard Zero?

Have a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x44mm scope on my Rem 700 308 with Leupold mounts and bases. I have a shim that Leupold has sent me.

I haven't sighted in the rifle or installed the shim yet. The scope only has 38 MOA of vertical adjustment so I thought the shim would help me get out to 600+ yards.

If I use the shim supplied from Leupold will I still be able to zero at 100 yards?
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:53 AM
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Give us more info about the shim. Where is it for? How thick is it? What is the distance from the center of the front ring to the center of the rear ring? What is your scope height, from center of barrel to center of scope? That would help.
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Eaglet is correct with his info.just take some measurements and triangulate the angle. we're assuming the shim will go under the scope on the rear mount, so, in very general terms, figure about one MOA for every thousands of shim thickness. i've heard some that use the Burris rings with the offset inserts that this is about what it works out to.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:09 PM
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OK I sighted in the gun today with no shim. It shoots good for Rem 180grain Corelokt factory loads. best groups were well under an inch.

With it sighted in I only have about 2 MOA left of up adjustment. Seems alittle odd but that's what I have.

The shim that I have from Leupold is a 20 MOA shim. My scope is 1.5" above the center of the bore and the rings are 3.5" apart.

I think the shim will work, is it OK to just install the shim under the rear base?
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:56 PM
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OK I sighted in the gun today with no shim. It shoots good for Rem 180grain Corelokt factory loads. best groups were well under an inch.

With it sighted in I only have about 2 MOA left of up adjustment. Seems alittle odd but that's what I have.

The shim that I have from Leupold is a 20 MOA shim. My scope is 1.5" above the center of the bore and the rings are 3.5" apart.

I think the shim will work, is it OK to just install the shim under the rear base?
scsims,

With the new information you provided here are my conclusions:

ArcTang(0.020/3.5) = 0.3274 = 019' = 19 MOA's
That means (assuming you zeroed at 100 yards) that with the shim you could have your "0" at 100 yards and have 21 MOA's left for vertical adjustment. At 3000 ft of altitude, using the factory bullet you mentioned, you would need 16.75 moa. I would say it would be about the most you want to push it, maybe up to 19 that would allow you to shoot at that altitude at about... 19.25 moa would put you at 650 yards.

This is what's bothereing me. I have never used shims before and I would think that if you base is a single one piece base, a 0.020" shim would be alright to place at the rear of the base; but if you have 2 separate pieces as base I would not use shims. In my mind you would mess up the scope. Would be putting too much stress on it.
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yes, put it under the rear base. but i would wrap some tape around the scope where the rings make contact to protect the scope with the slight amount of "misalignment" this is where the Burris signiture series rings are schweet! a 20MOA shim for your setup will be about .020 thick.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:58 PM
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What kind of tape would you use?
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