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Why FFP versus SPF?

 
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:06 AM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

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Broz,

I can understand that at 6x you can not see the "hash marks" to judge distance, but if you turn on the illumination you can see them. Personally I don't use them at such low power because at high power you are able to see the hash marks and the target better to align them on the back and bottom of the chest of an antelope as an example. Once I got used to using the 6 power setting at close range I have only need the illumination at dusk or dawn once or twice. With a good resting position using the FFP Vortex I am very confident in taking a neck shot at 400 yds, but my rifle groups less than 2 inches at 400 yds. The FFP lets me pinpoint the aiming point more accurately at higher power. This has worked for me, but others may not like it this way.

joseph
Joseph, I wish not to debate, we are both comfortable with our choices and I am fine with that. But since you want to instruct me as to your ways I will offer this. In states where an illuminated reticle is legal for hunting, I have found that in dark timber many times turning on the illuminated reticle will in many cases result in a blur. I find in it can be more of a hindrance than advantage. Now if you play with the intensity you can make this better, but only in that exact light condition. Looking into a darker area or as it darkens will require more adjustment. So I am not an illuminated reticle fan for these facts.

You stated in your last line, and I quote.

"The FFP lets me pinpoint the aiming point more accurately at higher power."

Would you please explain to me how get a better aim point that is more accurate at high power with a FFP reticle than with a SFP reticle? I fail to see why one would be better or more accurate on high power than the other. If you are talking reticle thickness,, on average the SFP will be thinner and will expose more target allowing s finer aim point. Now if you are referring to bracketing the target, that is fine with paper or steel but I would not find it acceptable for a long range shot on game where the body dimensions are varying and we usually don't use center mass for an aim point.

Target bracketing is commonly used by some, but while doing so you will need to keep track of 4 aim points to center up. I prefer to simply use one (center cross hair) especially when in field position on pod and bags and in a hunting situation.

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Old 09-24-2013, 09:35 AM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

Broz,

I didn't mean to sound like I was instructing you at all. Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly and I can see by your comments that I didn't consider other aspect of the subject.

AS for aiming at higher power "I" feel more comfortable because I am used to the FFP. I do use other SFP scopes and I most likely can aim as accurately as with the FFP.

I did add this at the end of my Post "but others may not like it this way" and thought that would get me off the "hook" so to speak if you disagree with what I had to add.

joseph

PS: A while back you taught me something that I had not realized and know that you have much more experience than I.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:46 AM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

Joseph, it is all good. This topic is one that has had much debate. In the end we all use what we prefer and fits our personal types of hunting. I know what I do does not mirror what some others do and prefer. That is fine. I do believe that each should use what they prefer and practice to be the best they can with that method. I posted my preferences and methods and tried to explain and support them well. It works for me just as yours do for you. If we are both happy with the results in the end it is a win, win.

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Old 09-24-2013, 09:50 AM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

bottom line is this. were having these debates for one reason.
because we can. same reason a dog licks his balls.
give a guy like jeff any scope and he will kill animals.
give him no scope and he will still kill animals.
he has a preference because preferences are available to him.
put an old unertle 15x ultra varmit scope on his gun and he will kill as many animals as he does now. bank on that.
choices are great especially coming from an era where there werent any.
but dont ever think choices alone will change much.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:13 AM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

Oh by the way I just bought a Colt M4 in .223 for close in deer hunting here in northern Georgia. I put my old Bushnell 3.5-10x45mm SFP scope with a 4-plex reticule on it. I have killed at least 50 deer using it on my Browning BAR 30-06. I am going to be 69 soon and don't like carrying heavy rifles anymore.

joseph

PS: Doesn't any of you guys work or are we all retired to be on the internet during working hours?
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:48 PM
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

Engineering101, I agree with your assessment 100%.
I think FFP scopes, and manual transmissions, should simply go away. And with this, we can all focus on the future.

The future includes laser ranging and dialing.
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Re: Why FFP versus SPF?

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Engineering101, I agree with your assessment 100%.
I think FFP scopes, and manual transmissions, should simply go away. And with this, we can all focus on the future.

The future includes laser ranging and dialing.
Man I love both of those things
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