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Old 01-07-2008, 11:23 PM
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what scope for F class and long range varmites

i am haveing a 6x47 lapua built by nate at ssg it will be done in the next week.this will be used for f class and long range varmits. i am wondering what scope you guys think i should put on it. i am leaning toward a nightforce nxs 5.5x22x50. i am open to your opinion and why. i have a couple mark 4s and am looking to try somthing new,i want to spend about 1500.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:16 AM
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If you go down the line at most F-Class matches, the scope you see the most is probably a Nightforce 12-42x56mm, either the NXS (side focus, 1/4 moa clicks) or the BR (front focus, 1/8 moa clicks).
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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i have heard that that much magnification is tomuch ona hot day.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:04 PM
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You don't have to turn it up so high you can't see. My goodness gracious, I bet that didn't occur to you. light bulb

Milanuk is the expert, so you got advice from the expert even if you didn't like it.

It is possible to shoot F-class with the 5.5-22X56 being as I do it but then you have to realize that I don't win.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:12 PM
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Magnification is a little like money... you can rarely have too much of it

Some people hate mirage; they feel it distracts them too much as they can't see the target clearly. It certainly does add a noticeable degree of eye strain and subsequent fatigue to the equation. Others hate not being able to clearly make out the edges or lines in a target as it gets all squiggly. I know I used to hate trying to shoot prairie dogs when it looked like they were out there doing the moon walk in the heat waves ;)

Then you have the other camp; mirage is there, whether you can see or not. Just because you back off the magnification to where you can't see the optical distortion does not mean the heat waves are not displacing your target image from where it is in reality. More importantly, mirage shows you the wind - often people refer to mirage as 'wind you can see'. If you can see the mirage angling up and to the right across the target... it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise when you have to hold a little low and left from your zero to actually hit the center of the target. Likewise, if you see the mirage (wind) suddenly flip the other way (up and to the left), you know you better hold off to accommodate the condition change. How much depends a lot on the individual range and its layout, but hopefully you get the idea. I've had situations where I was having to hold off as described to hit the center, and it was driving me nuts (didnt click off, as it wasn't quite enough to merit that much compensation). However when a breeze would dip down across the target face and blow off the mirage for a few seconds... I'd literally see the target 'jump' down and left - surprise, surprise.

As I said, mirage can be your friend - it tends to be more responsive faster to small changes than flags which have mass and take longer to show, or may just flutter in a quick little shift in the wind. Too much mirage can drive you batty, though. I've shot where there was an asphalt shingled roof over a firing line down range giving off horrendous mirage... enough so that the gun was wobbling slightly one way, and the mirage image was wobbling far worse going the other way. If I was more susceptible to motion sickness, I'm pretty sure it would have made me puke!

The 5.5-22x will work just fine, especially if you get a fine crosshair like the NP-R1 or R2, or one of the CH reticles. Perhaps even w/ the 2DD... just anything that doesn't cover a lot of real-estate on the target. I think you'll find that the 42x scopes allow you to refine your call much tighter... shots that you would have called 'rock-solid' and had no idea why it ended up in the 9 (or 8) ring will look a bit less steady... and you just may see your last split second 'jerk' or flinch that sent that round off for the back 40...

FWIW, I hardly *ever* turn down the magnification, and I know I'm not the only one who shoots like that. Other people like to turn the magnification down to where the worst of the mirage goes away and the image stabilizes, but they can still see shifts and let-offs and pick-ups and such.

YMMV,

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Old 01-08-2008, 11:39 PM
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Good post, It looks like I'm going to have to bite the big one and get one too. Boy, that's alot of money for a scope. My F-class rifle won't be done for a while yet, so I have time to think. Thanks for the good discription on mirage.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:05 AM
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The Weaver T24 and T36 are popular choice for people who don't want to spend the $$$ on a Nightforce. Unfortunately, they are fixed power only.
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