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What rifle scope would you use?

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Unread 12-09-2005, 07:33 PM
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What rifle scope would you use?

The scope is going on a 338-378 weatherby I'm thinking of either a swarovski 6-24x 30mm tube or schmit and bender the same?

Unread 12-10-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?

If your gonna spend that kind of money go to a night force. It will no doubt kick the crap out of a swarvoski. I dont know about the schmit but my dad put a night force on his 338-378 and it shot twice as good as it did before, no joke. It cut the group size in half. He had a leupold and also tried a burris but then he threw the night force on it and it no joke shoots twice as good now. The only thing bad about the nxs is that they are heavier. But this is what I would invest in for that 338-378.
I dont know who ever came up with the imaganary word of "Over Gunned"
Unread 12-10-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?


I think you would be wise to skip the Swaro and the Schmidt. Based on this article by S1 the Swaro would be out:


We broke several Schmidts doing muzzle loader testing.

+1 on what Screech said, "NXS"
Unread 12-10-2005, 08:23 PM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?

Use guy's hurt my feeling's I thought weatherby is a good gun or one of the best till I got on this web sight I thought there was nothing better than a swarvoski scope but I would rather save my money because of good advice thank you doe's any other gun company make a 388-378 weatherby cal rifle? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Unread 12-11-2005, 10:52 AM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?

Grizz, that´s surprising. I´ve had a swaro 3-12 x 50 on a 7 rm for more than three years, used it in very hot days, rain, snow, fog...., it´s travelled by car, plane, horse..... and still works fine.

What happened to those scopes you talk about?

I´ve ordered a SB PM II for a 300 rum; have never used ths nigthforce´s and they really look good, but for me they lack two things: milliradian and not MOA turrets ( I think they can do this as an extra now) and first focal plane reticle instead of second focal plane.

Just my opinion.
Unread 12-11-2005, 11:14 AM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?

ALG You are one of the lucky ones. As far as the Swaro's, you would have to ask S1. The Schmidts don't live on muzzle loaders, been there tried that. If you believe these scopes are so tough, why don't they dominate 50 bmg competitions where durability is a major issue?

The NXS has the finest Mil reticle on the market, it is called the MLR, and it does come with 1/10th mill knobs.

As far as first focal plane goes, why? If you have to turn the power down, whatever you are looking at is so close you don't need to range it to kill it. FFP is a bunch of Marketing hype. Never heard one experienced operator with 20 or more years in say, "Gee, its a good thing my optics were FFP.......or I'd have been FUBAR."

Never heard an experienced operator say, "in this situation, you need a FFP scope so you can perform X technique, picking up speed, accuracy, or both."

Guys can talk all they want about focal planes, but it makes no difference in the real world when it is time to kill, and you can bank that.
Unread 12-11-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: What rifle scope would you use?

I have owned and used both S&B PMII and Nightforce NXS scopes. The S&B is a better optic in my opinion. For target use the S&B lacked two things, magnification and a fine reticle (current subtension is cca. 7mm with mildot or P4 reticle) but Klein reticles - subtension cca 4mm are available on some models and hopefully more in the future. Also the 5-25x56 PMII takes care of lack of magnification issues.

USMC choose S&B, Canadian army choose ....you guest it S&B (in fairness they first choose USO and then changed their minds to S&B)and use it on their 50 bmg`s also.

Accuracy International, who have sold the odd rifle to a few armies (around 50 or so) come as standard with S&B`s.

FFP reticle allows you to range on any magnification, you also get no POI (point of impact) change through the magnification range unlike 2ndFP scopes.

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