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Old 08-24-2011, 01:05 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

Jason,

I would not be so concerned about weight. If a LR hunter is buying a US Optics scope, it's probably going on a pretty serious rig and people who have setups like that tend to own more than one rifle. Meaning there's no need to build a lightweight scope if it sacrifices anything, as your asking for input on a purpose built LRH scope.

Power range is really personal... while 20-24x on the high end minimum is fine, contrast is absolutely king! Being able to really pick out your target is more important, at least to me. for a true LRH scope, something in the 6-30x range would be absolutely perfect IMO.

Objective and tube diameter... as big as they need to but not bigger... probably 35mm main tube with a 50-56mm objective.

Reticle... i have talked with a few fellow long range hunters, and what we have all pretty much agreed on as the perfect reticle would be a leupold TMR style reticle, FFP, with moa hash marks (assuming moa turrets). something like a 1/8" or 3/16" clear dot in the center. This would mean at lower power ranges it would look just like a traditional scope, but not matter as if your shooting close in low mag, you aren't looking for the ultra precise aiming this allows.
We have found this type of reticle to be great for shooting varmints in the 800yard+ range, as traditional reticles often cover quite a bit of them up! But at the same time, at least with the people i've discussed with this about, have all really liked this reticle for hunting deer and big game as well. It is nice to SEE the exact spot you want to put the bullet rather than covering it up.

Side paralax (sorry Broz, my mistake ), definitely, not much to say here, besides objective focus seems to make a scope cheaper, side focus is much, much easier to adjust without breaking position.

Illumination i would leave as an option, personally i've only ever used it once while LR hunting, which was shooting pigs under a full moon on a whitish dirt road, there it was handy, except it kind of "washed" into the picture, was not crisp like the reticle, and that was with a NF, but if you can design illumination that doesn't do that, it may be useful for some hunters.

One more thing, i saw 2 suggestions mentioned velocity reticles and and drop compensating turrets..... ok, while this may ruffle some people's feathers: i believe these are both gimmicks, for people who don't want to, or simply don't, understand ballistics. There are way to many variables that go into calculating a shot than these turrets offer, at LONG range. Sure, if you want to hit a pie plate 600yards and in, in fairly consistent conditions with a high performance cartridge, sure... but that's not really what i, and a lot of members here consider long range hunting. Same goes for velocity reticles... they are just an even simpler system.
Mil, or preferably moa marked turrets, with an absolute minimum of 80min elevation travel, for a dedicated LRH scope, 100-120 would be AWESOME, zero stop would also be very useful when your going 3-4revs over your zero.

Hope my input was somewhat helpful, very happy to see you and USO take such a personal interest in what we, the consumer, want in a product!

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Old 08-24-2011, 01:28 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

Hello,

The 5.5 x 22 is very popular and I like it but a little more on top and bottom would be good.

so, maybe in the 6 or 7 to 26 ?

.25 Moa turrets with second focal plane and a moa reticle. If you come with a reticle like the IOR MP-8 dot in MOA I would do back flips.

Weight , lighter than the NXS would be good , 2 lbs but if it means giving up durability leave it at 2 lbs

Side paralax only, and never call it a focus please.



I have never used a lit reticle hunting so I can take it or leave it. But if you do please don't put a huge wart on the eye piece.

100 moa elevation minimum, 120 would be a lot better. 30 mm tube unless 35 would be necessary for 120 moa.

Must have some type of zero stop.

Thanks for asking our opinions. And if you need one ran over the road in testing I would be honored.

Jeff,
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:23 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

If you could build me a scope using my specifications. I would want the following options

1. 16 power range max.
2. FFP !!!!!!
3. Side Parallax
4. Reticle with Windage hash marks only.
5. Options on Windage turrets. Open or behind dust cap.
6. No need for illuminated reticle
7. 30 mm tube
8. Elivation turrets in MOA.
9. Compact and light weight
10. ZERO STOP!!!
11. Just let me know when it's finished so I can buy one.

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Old 08-24-2011, 06:28 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

US OPtics has some great choices available now, but you asked for my xmas list.
1) Eye relief, more.
2) FOV, more.
I'm no scope expert, would a bigger ocular lens be a start on 1 and 2?
3) 2.5-25x or 3-30x.
4) I like the reticle choices you have, but as you customize any way, marketing wise having velocity reticles available wouldn't hurt. They should be FFP, and custom, not small medium and large. Personally I think these reticles are more serviceable on medium range guns, I'm putting one on a 6.5-284 semi auto. Intended target wolf/coyote, moving target, ranges to 600 yards.
5) Weight would be important to me your SN3-17 is heavy for me, lighter is better, but I wouldn't go too light. Maybe 2 styles a 2.5-25 "lightweight" for guys traveling as they hunt, and a 4-40x "beast" for the heavy gun stationary folks.
6) Good usable lens caps
Fun to think about thanks for asking!

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Old 08-24-2011, 08:30 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

Hello Jason We have e-mailed many times before. Here is my list

Price under 1500$
FFP
MIL/MIL
Rectical must be thin
30mm tube
light as possable while still US Optics tough

I already have one of your scopes so Im not worried about anything else.
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:44 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

There are two types of long range hunters in my opinion. Those that set up on a vantage point and wait and those that hike mostly. I fall into the second category so here is what a good long range scope would be for me. Weight is a concern.

A 10 magnification ratio with the low no higher than 3.


Side parallax adjustment.


Non illuminated reticle.


42 - 44 mm objective lens.


30 mm body.


SFP.


Power selector marked with "accurate" holdover power settings.


Elevation turret in MOA. Built as low as possible yet accessible with gloves on.


Zero stop.


Reticle MOA @ 1moa spacing elevation and 2 moa spacing windage. Hash marks above the horizontal optional.


Optional windage dust cover....no knob.


Eye relief 4" min. throughout the power range.


24 oz's or less.


$1500 or less


Lifetime warranty

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Old 08-24-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: USO new long range hunting scope

I'm with oliveralan, broz and kcebcj on this except for kcebcj's 40 mm objective suggestion.

  • 50mm or larger.
  • MP-8 type reticle, MOA-MOA reticle-turret.
  • Lowest practicable weight. Have to live by the Idaho 16 pound regulation for big game.

I'm thinkin' the 375 Allen Magnum with some yet to be developed bullets.

This scope would go onto it and the NXS would go onto the lighter 270 Allen Magnum.
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