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Old 08-18-2005, 06:09 AM
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Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

Only talking out to about 600-700 yards.

I may be wrong but the consenus seems to be that a fixed power scope of 10X to 16X with a lot of turret elavation is the best setup. I understand the heat waves and mirage argument but most big game hunting is done in cooler weather. Is this the only reason?

Why wouldn't a 6-24X variable with mil-dots work better because of the sight picture and not the need to count clicks and the crosshairs actually moving? With mil-dots you wouldn't have to worry about elavation range of the scope.

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Old 08-18-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

Mirage is still prevalent even in the cooler months.

I can't tell you from experience on the mildot question, but hope to be able to in due time. My plan is to use both clicking and the mildot for extreme range shooting. In the ranges you are talking, I plan to dial the elevation and use the mils for windage.

You'll get a much better answer from some of the guys that have more experience w/the mildot. Just thought I throw in my 1 cent [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:40 AM
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

Bill Baileys approach is very good, allthough there are several ways to Rome. Holding for windage AND elevation is not as good as holding just for windage.

If you get a scope with reticle in the 1st image plane you can use the mils at any magnification, not just the one it's calibrated at as with 2nd image plane scopes.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:53 AM
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

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If you get a scope with reticle in the 1st image plane you can use the mils at any magnification, not just the one it's calibrated at as with 2nd image plane scopes.

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You can still use the mils at any magnification it is just a different figure per dot. Example is a scope set to read 3.6 mil at 10X would be 1.8 at 20X.

A good point on the windage plus elavation!
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:16 AM
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

Samspade,

At the ranges you specify, holdover won't be simple but it can be done. The main reason for dial up clicks is a very precise aiming point at long ranges. In my experience magnification matters less than wind correction. Anybody can hold steady and shoot but damn few can judge the wind!!! Also a quality scope with accurate clicks is important. Be suprised to find how many scopes are not really 1/4 min clicks. At long range that will give you fits!!!
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

You have to remember that mildots or their spacings are a "mathematical unit" - roughly 3.6" at 100 yards and this changes as the distance increases. There might be some correlation to where your trajectory is relative to the dot positions but probably not bang-on. Dots are a faster method of hold-off compensation, they offer a repeatable reference, not dead-on accuracy in most calibers. We shoot in 100 yard increments to learn what distance each dot is close to, then refine it a bit by shooting in between at 50 yard increments. We draw a little chart, with the crosshair intersection and the four dots and top of post, then pencil in the distances that the dots are good for. Might have a note like X-hundred yds - X dot, 6" low. Don't forget that the top of the post is also an aiming point.
Far more precision by clicking the exact drop into your elevation.
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Re: Turret turning vs Mil-Dot

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You can still use the mils at any magnification it is just a different figure per dot. Example is a scope set to read 3.6 <font color="blue"> inches per dot </font> at 10X would be 1.8 <font color="blue"> inches per dot </font> at 20X.


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Just clarifying [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I switch between 10 and 18 power frequently in the field. Thus have developed drop charts for both powers. <font color="purple"> But I loose track some times. When on 18 and thinkin 10 the dust flies enough low or short that ya think the rifle broke. Duh! I don't even think about comeups and goesdowns [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] </font>
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